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    I was told that if i ride without my R class licence on my RE on a bike bigger than 250cc that a $100 "out of class fee" applies, if caught by cops and wont be covered by insurance if in accident...

    Was also mentioned the option of applying for my R big bike licence and riding a big bike with people who have had their licence for four or more years and i wont get a fine from cops and will still be covered for fully comp insurance.

    but if i get caught riding alone with a learners permit for my R licence its apparently a worse offence involving a court appearance.

    Im sorry if this topic has been brought up before, i did a little search and could come up with anything.

    Just wanting to know which would be a better way to go, if i get a big bike before i get my R class licence... Cop a 100 dollar out of class fine or actually apply for an R class permit and bother people on here for a shadow on rides??

    Thanks in advance

    Brendiddly

  • #2
    yep, get caught riding out of class $100, no demerits per offence. Does not matter if you have a learners permit or not. Penalty is the same.

    As for the insurance, talk to your insurance company. I have heard of people being able to insure their R class bike, even though they only have their R-E, albeit with a HUGE excess. In these cases that I know off, the people had cruisers, not sports bikes. I've not heard of someone, expecially someone young being able to insure a sports bike out of class.

    Interestingly the Traffic Acts states that the penalty for riding out of class is 6 penalty units, (1 PU is $50). I've only ever heard of people getting fined $100 though.

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    • #3
      The big thing is Insurance won't cover you without your license or learners permit for the class of bike .... If you have a learners permit 4 your r class and are riding with others your covered, if not no payout .....
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      • #4
        No doubt if the man catches you doing something..ermm, silly, and you are riding out of class, you will be forking over a bit more than $100!

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        • #5
          Haha. Yeah, cheaper to play along with the rules and just flog the 250 until you can get your R's. I'm not even bothering with the *fast* bikes for the time. I can do too many stupid things on a 250 as it is without worrying about an extra 50HP+ under my ass.

          Apparently there's a 3-strikes clause which will land you with a court appearance or something (don't quote me on this).

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          • #6
            Interesting. thanks for the replies peeps, ill give a few insurance companies a ring for quotes and check it out...

            Anyone here actually been hassled by Mr Plod for riding out of class?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brendon@Jan 9 2006, 07:32 PM
              Anyone here actually been hassled by Mr Plod for riding out of class?
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              I know lots of people, that have been caught, and recently too. A few have gotten away with it, I think one, the cop didn't even realise that he was out of class. The rest have been fined $100.

              As far as I'm aware, there is no three strikes rule. Definitely isn't in the section of the Traffic Act that covers riding out of class.

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              • #8
                Ahh sweet, thanks Lester, just needed to put my mind to rest about these matters before i even consider buyin a big bike... before my time .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Brendon@Jan 9 2006, 07:58 PM
                  Ahh sweet, thanks Lester, just needed to put my mind to rest about these matters before i even consider buyin a big bike... before my time .
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                  Be really, really carefull, if you get a big bike. Seen quite a few guys buy a 600 after having their R-E for a few months. Seen quite a few write write them off too.

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                  • #10
                    "Hey officer my instructor was behind me last time I looked. We must have got seperated".
                    You put the c*nt in country run

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                    • #11
                      Haha, nice call... think ill pay Steve157 from elite the Equivalent to his half hour lessons to escort me down to scabs for rides etc

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cbr1k@Jan 9 2006, 08:11 PM
                        "Hey officer my instructor was behind me last time I looked.* We must have got seperated".
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                        ROFL had a student actually say that to a cop on a bike when he pulled up next to her at the lights and asked why she was riding by herself (the big yellow vest with "L" on it caught his attention). Worked for her.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lester@Jan 9 2006, 08:06 PM
                          Be really, really carefull, if you get a big bike.* Seen quite a few guys buy a 600 after having their R-E for a few months.* Seen quite a few write write them off too.
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                          Yeah, im worried about taking the step up... just been on a 250 for about 3 months.. not too sure i have the needed experience, but basically heres the lowdown:

                          I bought my ZZR for $3000, and since my engine fucked up, i dont want to spend a grand for a new one. Ill just lose money on the bike in the long run. I discussed this with Gordo and Gohan today. I also dont want to spend money buying another 250, so im thinking maybe go for a 600, and when my full year is up, there wont be a need to upgrade, cos ill already have the 600.

                          I think that if i also take it very steady and be extra careful, i might even build up my experience too. ill go on a lot of cruisy 250 run like the alpaca run.

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                          • #14
                            One thing to consider;

                            AFAIK you're the guy thats dropped your bike a few times right? Can you be so sure you have the experience to not do it again? a 600 would cost alot more to repair than a zzr would (they're designed to withstand low speed drops better than most from what I've read)

                            edit: whats wrong with the zzr motor mate?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by leezxr@Jan 9 2006, 09:07 PM
                              One thing to consider;

                              AFAIK you're the guy thats dropped your bike a few times right? Can you be so sure you have the experience to not do it again? a 600 would cost alot more to repair than a zzr would (they're designed to withstand low speed drops better than most from what I've read)

                              edit: whats wrong with the zzr motor mate?
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                              hmm yet another thing to have a serious think about, cheers for bringin that up, these are the kinds of responses i was chasing, thanks peeps

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