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  • The Stuff Moderators put Up With

    There have no doubt been many rumors circulating over the last few days about the forum cleanup. Some people say that the bans and moderator changes are a removal of their freedom of speech; others say that they should be able to say what they wish uncensored.

    I say it is a necessary evil in order to have a much needed cleanup of the forum so it is a better place for the people that enjoy it for its core purpose, politics free and grief free communication with fellow bike buddies.

    Unfortunately the Moderators are the ones who take the flack. Posts are made that are promptly removed from public view in order to shelter you from simple minded people who only wish to entertain themselves by getting a reaction. Usually you don’t see them because they are promptly edited or deleted. But, I think its time to show some of you the sort of stuff we have to put up with so that you can begin to understand why we sometimes have to get heavy handed.

    This post was made last night from a user called Gonzo. Unfortunately, what makes it most disappointing for me is that Gonzo is the son of Gordo, a regular PSB user, and until recently…. a moderator himself.


    Originally posted by Gonzo@Jan 15 2006, 12:20 AM
    Sooooo... i've been banned for awhile, looks like it just expired - and looks like this place is even more of a fascist fuck up than before.... more on that HERE.
    So basically since in my oh so humble of opinions this place isn't worth the effort of clicking and typing to get on to, i'd like to say a few final words (again...) -

    So please, let me start with this for the people who run this place:


    and move on to give this, from Johnny:


    I mean a forum about bikes... moderated be people who either dont have bikes or barely ride the things. Then on top of that the ones who do have bikes are little known to the people. After this they delete/edit/ban for going against what they say... .when given the above, they know fuck all. Basically this is like politics... they make rules but know fuck all about what impact they really make (ie speed limits, driver training, possibly new lane splitting laws, ETC)... all made up by cunt-s who know jack shit about the real impact, but it sure seems or looks good to them and their 'higher power' buddies (Read: Brown nosers/wankers (oops)/ass kissers/door mats).

    So there it is.... Ciao
    P.S!!! I forgot to say that i designed a new and improved logo for PSB... i believe it encompasses what PSB is all about so much more than the old one....

    Like it??? -

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    So on the eight day, after wasting time faffing about with unimportant guff like heaven & earth & the waters & sky & creatures [& having a wee kip] & man.... God created PSB (GenesiSX-R1000)

  • #2
    Bloody hell. well then..........now I can see a small example. It is unfortunate that some choose to express their disappointment and frustration in this manner. I am saddened to see what has happened here in the last few weeks. But I have faith that it will all blow over, and hopefully not too many friendships will be thrown away in the heat of the moment. Like has been mentioned, at the end of the day, it is about riding our bikes, and spending time with our mates......

    Fastgir1
    Originally posted by Red_is_Best
    hahah I hate it when they do that and you make some noises like you had it done just last year, then they give you that look, like you are a bad vagina owner and you should take better care of it!

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    • #3
      Golly, that's pretty vitriolic - would hate to think this sort of stuff is posted often.
      I can't think what more you could possibly need to know... except maybe this:

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      • #4

        Well, at least he doesn't do things by halves...

        Personally, I think this forum is fine the way it has been run. I have had a couple of posts removed but who hasn't? No point in pointing fingers now when you are unaware of whats happened before...

        Fuck all this gossip and shit... Lets just keep riding and enjoying other bikers company...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by offtheshelf@Jan 15 2006, 06:54 PM
          Well, at least he doesn't do things by halves...

          Personally, I think this forum is fine the way it has been run. I have had a couple of posts removed but who hasn't? No point in pointing fingers now when you are unaware of whats happened before...

          Fuck all this gossip and shit... Lets just keep riding and enjoying other bikers company...
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          Yeah, must say, that I got a bit pissed when I found some of my posts removed...start wondering WTF? Started taking it all personally etc etc. Took a chill pill...all ok now.
          What offtheshelf said, is absolutley correct....No point in pointing fingers now when you are unaware of whats happened before...

          Personally...if it has no effect on me, its got nothing to do with me.

          Keep up the good work Deej.

          Steve
          Originally posted by Viper
          I'm probably fucking something up.
          FOREVER RIDING WITH "DAVO" - FarRider #1

          http://forum.fjr13.org/index.php
          Administrator

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          • #6
            Dude needs a chill pill. Keep up the good work mod team, even just being in the organising team for a small project like the shents pc room, I can understand how much work goes into running this place.

            Restecp.

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            • #7
              i saw this posted last night/this morning, instantly thought to myself if you dont like it then dont come back, simple really
              it's not all "beer and skittles" for the moderators, i'd say practically all of us do thank the moderators for all they wade through, no matter how smelly it gets

              and yes, can we just ride and enjoy the company

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              • #8
                OK I'm stoopid.

                The example above is someone with an axe to grind, is abusive and the post isn't going anywhere constructive. I can see why that would get pulled. Fair enough.

                What other types of posts are bad form? Are we talking obvious stuff like racism and personal abuse?

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                • #9
                  I'm an Admin on a car forum and I know exactly what you guys go through.

                  People just do not realise what goes on behind the scenes, the JUSTIFIED censorship that occurs, and the lack of appreciation for the UNPAID, TOTALLY VOLUNTARY effort to give you desperate few useless pricks something to do when all your porn material has been exhausted or your limewire downloads are incomplete - and you still complain.

                  If the general members also had access to the PMs that get sent to mods and admin they'd get another shock, and not only the number of messages, but abuse, whining about politics, emails, phone calls...

                  You know what - Go start your own fucking forum, you'll be back in a week because it's all too hard. I've seen it happen. You think you've got unique ideas but your just like... oh fuck it... go find something you're good at... oh that's right, it's still downloading...

                  BIG UPS to everyone involved with this forum.

                  PS: Much work for mods would be reduced if people just re-read their post and thought about it before they pressed the 'Submit Post' button.

                  PPS: Oh, and don't post angry! Leave it until morning and I guarentee you won't be bothered.

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                  • #10
                    This is one reason I stay quietly in the background . As a past 1%'er I can see a few wannabes that try to amuse themselves by stirring shit and admire the restraint shown by those in the background . Congrats to ALL the mods and keep it up Deej .

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                    • #11
                      deej, let me say a few things. i personally think the forum has changed for the worse. there is to many suck holes who like to say what they think when they know fark all. there always seems to be around 4 in particular. some are on the trackday commitee and others you wouldnt have met. i have been on this forum longer than most as you would know and consider you a friend and some of the other mods klink/melkor in particular. but i seriously think you FUCKED UP! by getting rid of gordo as a mod. just because some of the other mods, and im saying SOME! because i know who the ones who didnt get along with gordo are.
                      he has been the most helpful mod and psber that i know.


                      by saying this in your post makes me think you are trying to justify getting rid of gordo. read below vvvvvv
                      Originally posted by Deej@Jan 15 2006, 06:09 PM
                      This post was made last night from a user called Gonzo.* Unfortunately, what makes it most disappointing for me is that Gonzo is the son of Gordo, a regular PSB user, and until recently…. a moderator himself.
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                      sure GONZO is a TOSSER for being so harsh with his post but why?? mention gordo?. i honestly think that some of what GONZO says is true. when all that shit happend with pure powers post about the avatar issue. i was so tempted to say something but wanted to keep the peace. i think that the girls and guys on this forum should be all equal and i know for a fact it aint. if a girl wants a half naked bloke as her avatar then so farken what. the guys put all the frontal shots of women in posts and women in bikinis as avatars. one in particular, roosters girlfriend. if thats ok then why not a half naked bloke. anyway i,ve vented enough and have said what needed to be said.

                      well this will be my last post and i wont be coming back to this forum as its gotten worse by the day. guys/girls getting banned is bullshit i say. especially the last banning of butterfly(karina) who would be one of the most helpful and respected female psbers on here. she organised rides for the girls on a regular basis and alot more.i think it should have been discussed properly before you banned her deej.
                      ok, i expect someone other than yourself will delete this post and i would be quite rightly pissed if it was. hope to still catch up with yourself/klinky in the future.

                      PS: would all the post whores who know fuck all about me not reply to my post. anyone else is not a problem.i will still be at the trackday as it is trackdayz that i will be coaching for not PSB. TAKE CARE EVERYONE

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                      • #12
                        only thing i can think of to say is this shit is normal for a popular forum. i hope nobody (mods or average joes) thinks its all a sign of the place going down the gurgler, ive seen it several times as online communities grow and evolve.
                        Originally posted by Friedrich Hayek
                        "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dr00+Jan 15 2006, 07:49 PM-->
                          only thing i can think of to say is this shit is normal for a popular forum. i hope nobody (mods or average joes) thinks its all a sign of the place going down the gurgler, ive seen it several times as online communities grow and evolve.
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                          there is to many suck holes who like to say what they think when they know fark all
                          Nor can you stop people giving their opinion... unless someone tries to tell me that 2 + 2 = 5

                          Gohan does make a good point though (and I don&#39;t speak with regards to recent events of which I know narsing), one I can sympathise with, that big problems can occur if the staff don&#39;t communicate properly with eachother - my only advice.

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                          • #14
                            To all the Moderators PAST and PRESENT.

                            THANKYOU


                            Nobody should have to put up with shit and thankyou for keeping the peace as much as you do.
                            Feed 'em to the pigs, Errol....

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                            • #15
                              Its not about being thanked...

                              Its about not being shat on when we organise things... like being accused of lining our pockets.
                              If you can... you MUST!

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