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  • 2013 GSXR 1000 and GSXR 750 review

    Hey everyone!

    Just a quick review and thoughts on a couple of test rides I had yesterday on the new GSXR 1000 and 750.

    I actually started off on the GSXR 1000 fitted with Yoshi pipe. Now I have been riding on dirt for more than a decade and also on the road for more than six years with a variety of bikes. FINALLY this was my first experience on a litre Superbike. I was a little anxious and nervous at first after reading all the hype surrounded around these bikes but brutally excited as well.

    As soon as I started off I was impressed at how refined and civil this bike can be. The suspension took me by surprise, I was expecting a hardcore bore jarring over every bump experience, something like a chopped spring Vtec Civic. It was plush and soaked up every bump as if I was on a cruiser or driving a luxury Mercedes. The forks were not dialled in to my body weight so with tunning these BPF forks should be able to give you everything you need for road or track. Just awesome.

    Being fitted with monobloc Brembo calipers I was expecting the slightest grab to have the back wheel in the air attempting to throw me over the handle bars, not the case, the feedback was superb, the two finger sqeeze always felt controlled and precise. They were so good I was starting to wonder if I would really need ABS? I mean I want abs on a sportsbike but are they necessary when the set up is this good?

    Now to the engine, yep THAT engine, holy fucking shit!!!!!!!!!!!! It was everything I imagined it to be and more. I kept thinking to myself how the hell does anyone race these things with this much power? Massive props to those guys, using this much power on the racetrack is impressive. The thing I liked most about it was the fact you can actually ride it mild mannered using a higher gear and keeping the revs low. If you do this, for anyone coming off a smaller bike you will be more than fine if you have self control. The power is so linier and smooth I can see why the bike doesn't need traction control fitted. It does have B and C rider modes to reduce the power in the wet which is a great thing to have.

    I had the bike for over and hour and I didn't ever want to take it back, sure I would never find the limits of the bike, but that outright acceleration and power on tap is extremely addictive. 2nd gear @ 100kph with a twist of the wrist was probably my favourite experience of the day. Man I want a litre bike so bad but could I keep my licence on one? Not sure on that, track days would have to be a frequent event.

    The GSXR 750 was all stock. What a beautiful bike. I dunno if it was just me but I felt as if I was sitting more upright so it was slightly more comfortable. The bike was clearly lighter with shaper handling and that engine just wants to rev and boogie all day long. The induction noise seemed so much louder, maybe cause of the stoke pipe on the 750 compared to the Yoshi on the 1000. In a way this bike made me feel more like a hoon. You just want to rev it all the time to feel that rush of power and acceleration. The 1000 you can get that rush from pretty much any revs in any gear, I loved that. The 750 has it's own rewarding experience, the power is much more manageable and very useable, the litre bike is clearly overkill for a rider like myself.

    What can I say, awesome bikes, 600's 750's and 1000's are all sick, it doesn't matter which one you go for they all give you an amazing experience with plusses and minuses for each one. I would be just as happy riding a 600 as I would be riding a 1000. Shape handling or ridiculous power? Or perhaps the perfect blend of both?
    "Starin' at the world through my rearview"

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    Probably a silly question but if you bought the 1000 would the C and B setting being like riding a 600 or 750? Eg C setting it to a 600 power setting and B setting it to a 750 power setting. Or am I way off with that?
    i can see you said it reduced the power but is it that much of a drop in power is my question
    Last edited by elb94; 03-11-2013, 10:05 AM. Reason: Re wording

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    • #3
      Handeling / weight , are all very different on each class machine.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by elb94 View Post
        Probably a silly question but if you bought the 1000 would the C and B setting being like riding a 600 or 750? Eg C setting it to a 600 power setting and B setting it to a 750 power setting. Or am I way off with that?
        i can see you said it reduced the power but is it that much of a drop in power is my question
        on my 09 thou B mode is 70% power up to 50% throttle, then from 51-100% throttle is full power, and C mode is 70% power regardless of throttle position. Not sure if it's like that in the later models.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by elb94 View Post
          Probably a silly question but if you bought the 1000 would the C and B setting being like riding a 600 or 750? Eg C setting it to a 600 power setting and B setting it to a 750 power setting. Or am I way off with that?
          i can see you said it reduced the power but is it that much of a drop in power is my question

          Not really.

          The rear tyre is a different size, the chassis is different and the engine has more gyroscopic mass. The gearing is WAY different.

          If you're thinking that maybe a 1000 is going to be too much (and stepping up from your first road bike there's no shame in that), a 600 is a bit lighter, with closer gearing, higher revs, etc.


          Stepping up from a LAMS bike, a 600cc super sport will be fine/plenty for most. Don't be fooled into thinking that it's going to be slow because you can get a LAMS bike in 650cc, the super sports are an entirely different animal. Think something like Hyundai Getz vs. Honda Civic Type R (except way more power in comparison). The older civics were 1.6L as well, but the driving experience is completely different.
          “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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          • #6
            I think you will find a big difference in the handling and the ride once the suspension was tuned for your weight or as close as possible. Nothing bone jarring but certainly nothing as plush as the stock settings. It makes a massive difference in how it handles also.

            Marty moose will be able to explain it better and give a lot more info on it so you should definitely have a word to him about it and take any bike you buy to his place for a quick adjustment

            Edit: Are you going to take the other 1000's for a spin also? Be interesting to see what your thoughts are when you compare them. If possible ride them back to back
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            • #7
              Thaaaaankint everyone for that one. Wasn't to sure how the modes worked on the 1000 gix

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Waikikablukar View Post

                Edit: Are you going to take the other 1000's for a spin also? Be interesting to see what your thoughts are when you compare them. If possible ride them back to back
                At this stage I am not sure. If anything I would take the new Y1 with traction control for a spin. Simply because of the cross plane crank to see how unique it is. I love the sound it makes but it is also the heaviest of the Jap litre superbikes. If I can't handle the power of the gsxr1000 there is no point test riding the BMW S1000RR. I can imagine the ZX10R with more electronic trickery and power but again I wouldn't be able to use that power. The CBR1000rr is awesome and probably the main contender. Unfortunately they don't have a demo ready to go until December. The closest thing right now would be to try the new RSV4 with ABS, we are talking 5k difference in purchase price. A tricked out reliable Jap litre bike for equal value would have to be superior. This is an assumption based on test but probably a fair one.
                "Starin' at the world through my rearview"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by elb94 View Post
                  Probably a silly question but if you bought the 1000 would the C and B setting being like riding a 600 or 750? Eg C setting it to a 600 power setting and B setting it to a 750 power setting. Or am I way off with that?
                  i can see you said it reduced the power but is it that much of a drop in power is my question
                  I don't think the modes actually reduce power. I have the current model 600 and the B mode just makes the throttle reponse slower. Full throttle is still full power but it just makes it feel boring. 750/1000 may have a different setup though?

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                  • #10
                    750 is the same.

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                    • #11
                      2013 GSXR 1000 and GSXR 750 review

                      At least on the thou, c mode limits power to about 120hp.

                      A - full power
                      B - slower response but full power
                      C - neutered to 120hp
                      “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by thro View Post
                        At least on the thou, c mode limits power to about 120hp.

                        A - full power
                        B - slower response but full power
                        C - neutered to 120hp
                        600/750 only have A and B, with B just limiting throttle response up until a certain rev limit, then continues as normal. As for handling, have owned over the last 2 years a current gen thou, a L1 600 and a L2 750. Chassis wise the the 600/750 are identical, but ride sooo different. In fact, due to the reasons [MENTION=7023]thro[/MENTION] mentioned (gearing, gyro etc) the 750 rides more like the thou, once set up for my weight, than the 600 did. Forgetting ergonomics (coz the 6/750 are slimmer than the thou), the 600 feels more responsive to throttle (on and off), easier to change direction and importantly turns tighter for a given lean angle (shorter wheelbase), both the thou and the 750 handle very similar in turn-in and power down, differences being lower first few gears on the 750 gives it better drive up until higher speeds, but it really loses out after that. For comparison, as an example, both the 600 and 750 do "around" 120km/h in first gear at the top, but the 6 has 1000rpm more to play with. the 6, flat out, did around 280km/hr (from memory) in top, but the 750 i have seen well over 290 indicated with heaps of revs left, in fact was only just upshifting to 6th at P.I at a bit over 280something. The thou does over 160km/hr in first, but 6th is very similar to the 750, even tho it has less revs again to play with. So the 750 has LONG gaps between ratios, which is what hurts it against the bigger bikes in the country and also means that most of the time the 6 can more than just keep up. The current 6 also has further lightened engine internals and previous mentioned close ratio box as standard, why no-one races one here is beyond me. Mine had 112hp at the rear with a filter and std tune on the pc5, 118hp at the rear with exhaust and tune. Bpf forks are brilliant, giving supple ride control while offereing increased dampening levels, nothing extra flash at the rear tho. As a road bike, i found the 600 much quicker, point to point than the thou, and only once well over 120km/hr did the thou walk away. Although wheelies were effortless on the bigger bike. Contrary to popular belief, in my opinion the 750 isn't really "in the middle", handling and sharpness is no better than the thou, and the grunt isn't any better than the 6 for 95% of riding, and any torque advantage is lost with longer gear intervals. As a side note, last time i had the thou dynoed was just under 170hp, and the 750 (which only had around 1200km on it) was good for 135. My advice? Get the one in the colour you want. It is the major difference. (and price lol)

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                        • #13
                          After reading that review I am very interested in your review of a ZX-10R - tell me your thoughts on what happens as you pass 9,500 rpm...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by out_in_front View Post
                            After reading that review I am very interested in your review of a ZX-10R - tell me your thoughts on what happens as you pass 9,500 rpm...
                            In the "good old days" you would tankslap, then wheelie, then tank slap some more before not stopping because the brakes were shit. A new one? Probably get hoon lawed for going over those revs lol
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                            • #15
                              Oh it does that.... (mine has brembo brakes + braided lines to get rid of the last bit though)

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