N to 2nd after a false Neutral?

[shiva]

Hi all,

Was wondering if someone could help with a theory I have...

Lets say you are travelling in 1st gear at about 30-40km/h and you decide to switch to 2nd but instead you hit Neutral "false neutral"...

Can you go from N straight to 2nd gear? Seeing N is located between 1st and 2nd, I don't see a problem? Or do you have to go to 1st then back to 2rd? And will there be any damage to the bike going from N to 2nd?

Thanks!

[shortSteve]

Yes. Yes you can.

[MJP]

Yes N to 2nd...

[I Like ( . Y . )]

just do it...if it works then it works and apart from that....you do it each time you change gears.

[filbert]

yes. but....

let the revs drop if you miss a gear before trying to click it in again.

otherwise you might find evidence of the mistake in your sump at the next oil change if it lasts until then.

[boeman]

If it is a small capacity bike and you shift back down to first, you will probably get some engine braking.

Go to 2nd.

[Rich...]

That ain't no false neutral...that is neutral...

[thro]

To avoid this, hold pressure on the lever until you're sure it has engaged second gear.... Even after releasing the clutch.

[XolituDe]

Followed by the clunk it makes i'd say its rather obvious that it causes damage.
Although it may be minimal, performed time and time again like anything it will result in a mid/long term problem.

Like Rich said, thats not false neutral.
False neutral is for example when your at the lights and you're stationary, and you switch into N and the light comes on, but you let go of the clutch thinking its in neutral and it takes off and stalls, meaning its not hooked in properly.

[Rich...]

No...

A false neutral is when you are in between gears...

You go from 4th to 5th but don't fully move the gear lever...

It comes out of 4th, but doesn't engage 5th...

[AliastheJester]

^^^ What he said.
The 250s I have ridden won't get false neutrals and my DR won't either.

[Rich...]

A well designed and set up gearbox shouldn't get false neutrals...

[XolituDe]

Ah ok learn something new everyday lol

[BERT]

That ain't no false neutral...that is neutral...

This.
Don't sissy about with the gear change, lift those toes and make sure you give enough lever travel.

[g0zer]

Hi all,

Was wondering if someone could help with a theory I have...

Lets say you are travelling in 1st gear at about 30-40km/h and you decide to switch to 2nd but instead you hit Neutral "false neutral"...

Can you go from N straight to 2nd gear? Seeing N is located between 1st and 2nd, I don't see a problem? Or do you have to go to 1st then back to 2rd? And will there be any damage to the bike going from N to 2nd?

Thanks!

i think the only reason you would accidently shift into nuetral instead of 2nd is because your shifting technique is poor and/or shift lever is poorly adjusted. partially engaged shifts can cause damage to gearboxes. shifting from N to 2 while rolling in of itself wont cause damage.

preload your shift lever slightly with the gearbox loaded (accelerating even if its only lightly), then increase pressure, clutch in and roll off simultaneously. as the box unloads with pressure already there it will help achieve full and positive engagement even if your simultaneous timing isnt so perfect.