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    Some states over that way (points left) have trialed/legislated filtering thru stationary traffic.

    Any signals from anyone on either side of politics that this might become common sense in WA?

  • #2
    Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
    Some states over that way (points left) have trialed/legislated filtering thru stationary traffic.

    Any signals from anyone on either side of politics that this might become common sense in WA?
    What's your understanding of the current legislation here? And what benefit do you see from WA adopting the rules trialed/implemented over east?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
      Any signals from anyone on either side of politics that this might become common sense in WA?
      hahahahahahahaha


      Sorry.. 'politics' and 'common sense' and 'WA" in the same sentence. What's his prize??

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      • #4
        stationary or Hwy because people like to sit side by side in cages. in perth you should be splitting & getting away from those cars no matter what the Claw says
        Last edited by Hillz; 11-01-2017, 07:23 AM.

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        • #5
          Don't like being rear ended 😔

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          • #6
            Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
            Don't like being rear ended 😔
            How is that relevant to a motorcycle forum?

            Split and filter in accordance to the current rules. I've had some roadside conversations with police who have pulled me over, once I've demonstrated my knowledge of the rules and we've ascertained that I've done nothing wrong they let me go.

            The last thing I want is to be told I can only do 15km/h past stationary traffic, on two wheels.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Loud View Post
              How is that relevant to a motorcycle forum?

              Split and filter in accordance to the current rules. I've had some roadside conversations with police who have pulled me over, once I've demonstrated my knowledge of the rules and we've ascertained that I've done nothing wrong they let me go.

              The last thing I want is to be told I can only do 15km/h past stationary traffic, on two wheels.
              it seems you know more than all of us about this topic, perhaps instead of being cryptic you may like to share YOUR understanding of the rules, as it seem us underlings haven't the same grasp as you

              my understanding is that Plod can pull me up for filtering through stationary traffic if he wants and book me for dangerous driving causing a reduction in congestion... grey goes both ways unfortunately.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Loud View Post
                How is that relevant to a motorcycle forum?
                some like it.


                Originally posted by Loud View Post
                The last thing I want is to be told I can only do 15km/h past stationary traffic, on two wheels.

                oo so thats the magic number i say when i get pulled. nah was goin 15 coppa. if accused otherwise then may i please see the calibrated speed measuring decive that has recorded my speed? no? ok 15 it is then.
                Originally posted by Paraletic
                little end bearing. best describes as the sound of 'A little black man with a hammer in your engine'. big end sounds like a bigger black man...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
                  it seems you know more than all of us about this topic, perhaps instead of being cryptic you may like to share YOUR understanding of the rules, as it seem us underlings haven't the same grasp as you

                  my understanding is that Plod can pull me up for filtering through stationary traffic if he wants and book me for dangerous driving causing a reduction in congestion... grey goes both ways unfortunately.
                  I don't see why it's so hard.

                  It is legal, as long as you indicate, don't cross over solid lines, don't pass a car in the same lane on its left-hand side (unless it is stopped and turning right), and don't ride on the line.

                  "Lane splitting/filtering is an unsafe practice which usually contravenes the road rules. While the Australian Road Rules and WA Road Traffic Code 2000 do not explicitly ban lane splitting/filtering, they do prohibit the practice by virtue of the fact that a number of other rules may be and are regularly contravened during the manoeuvres, such as not signalling before a lane change, riding with the wheels on the lane line, crossing continuous lane lines, safe overtaking and so on."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Benzo View Post
                    It is legal, as long as you indicate, don't cross over solid lines, don't pass a car in the same lane on its left-hand side (unless it is stopped and turning right), and don't ride on the line.
                    This.
                    Originally posted by flashpixx
                    it seems you know more than all of us about this topic
                    Hahah - you think that because you don't know, no-one else knows? Safety in numbers, eh?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
                      it seems you know more than all of us about this topic, perhaps instead of being cryptic you may like to share YOUR understanding of the rules, as it seem us underlings haven't the same grasp as you

                      my understanding is that Plod can pull me up for filtering through stationary traffic if he wants and book me for dangerous driving causing a reduction in congestion... grey goes both ways unfortunately.
                      For someone that doesn't like being rear ended you've done a pretty epic job of making an arse out of yourself with that first paragraph. Perhaps you've misinterpreted my post, feel free to point out what upset you.

                      From my side, you've suggested that changing the laws is "common sense". I ask again - why is it common sense? What do you hope is achieved by changing the laws?

                      There are currently perfectly legal ways to filter and split, if you're aware of the rules and suitably skilled. I'm happy to link some of the many threads available using the search function to help with your understanding, however given that you've formed a position on the matter it would appear you must be aware of them already. So I'm surprised you've found my question offensive.

                      These current rules allow us to do things that those over East are explicitly prohibited from doing, because further "common sense" was put in to the legislation. Filtering becomes legal at no more than xx km/h (very slow) and splitting is made illegal at the same time. No thanks.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Loud View Post
                        For someone that doesn't like being rear ended you've done a pretty epic job of making an arse out of yourself with that first paragraph. Perhaps you've misinterpreted my post, feel free to point out what upset you.

                        From my side, you've suggested that changing the laws is "common sense". I ask again - why is it common sense? What do you hope is achieved by changing the laws?

                        There are currently perfectly legal ways to filter and split, if you're aware of the rules and suitably skilled. I'm happy to link some of the many threads available using the search function to help with your understanding, however given that you've formed a position on the matter it would appear you must be aware of them already. So I'm surprised you've found my question offensive.

                        These current rules allow us to do things that those over East are explicitly prohibited from doing, because further "common sense" was put in to the legislation. Filtering becomes legal at no more than xx km/h (very slow) and splitting is made illegal at the same time. No thanks.

                        How's that Shoei helmet going? Bet you're happy with the 50% off I prompted you to save?
                        OUCH!

                        (but "like")

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Loud View Post
                          For someone that doesn't like being rear ended you've done a pretty epic job of making an arse out of yourself with that first paragraph. Perhaps you've misinterpreted my post, feel free to point out what upset you.

                          From my side, you've suggested that changing the laws is "common sense". I ask again - why is it common sense? What do you hope is achieved by changing the laws?

                          There are currently perfectly legal ways to filter and split, if you're aware of the rules and suitably skilled. I'm happy to link some of the many threads available using the search function to help with your understanding, however given that you've formed a position on the matter it would appear you must be aware of them already. So I'm surprised you've found my question offensive.

                          These current rules allow us to do things that those over East are explicitly prohibited from doing, because further "common sense" was put in to the legislation. Filtering becomes legal at no more than xx km/h (very slow) and splitting is made illegal at the same time. No thanks.

                          How's that Shoei helmet going? Bet you're happy with the 50% off I prompted you to save?
                          Haha loving the Shoei thanks 👍
                          Not upset... Haven't had a bike for 4 years so wondering if things had changed. Seems not and seems that is a good thing.
                          I thought I was asking a straight forward question but I should have clarified why I asked 😊

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                          • #14
                            Yes, loud is right. The new law is not "you are allowed to filter". The filtering laws are the opposite.

                            They now state "You are not allowed to filter under these conditions."

                            Take NSW for example. Like here, there were ways to get through moving traffic. Anticipating movement of vehicles ahead correct use of indicators, riding to the right of a moving vehicle with the lane, etc etc.

                            Now, the NSW law states if you exceed 30kph splitting past a vehicle, you get busted:

                            "The rider of a motor bike must not ride past another motor vehicle being driven
                            in the same direction as the rider if the rider is:
                            (a) in the same marked lane as, or on a dividing line adjacent to, the vehicle
                            while passing the vehicle, and
                            (b) riding the motor bike at a speed in excess of 30 kilometres per hour.
                            Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units."

                            Leave it how it is here. WAPOL will not listen to your explanation you were doing it legally, They'll say: "you were going +30kph, maaate!"
                            The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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                            • #15
                              As long as you are on one wheel it is legal I thought?

                              Also the lane between the two solid whites is the motorcycle lane.

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