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Yay I recieved another response and this one seems to be written by a person and not copied and pasted, I have sent alot of emails with alot of words in them and some with some not very nice words but anyway:
Lol, continuing response, now I have sent this email back to them but it is kind of not very well written as I am still abit shaken by events today.
Now will wait and see what happens, last time I sent an email to them I recieved a voice message on my phone saying the ORS wasn't happy with the tone of my e-mails and wanted to discuss them. I didn't call them back, well because I suck at phone conversations.
Cheers
Ben
Our ref: DPC/21963
Dear Mr Arrow
Thank you for your continuing correspondence regarding motorcyclist safety.
In response to your comments about the controllability of motorcycles at low speed, you will undoubtedly be aware that many other countries (particularly in Europe) have urban speed limits that are significantly less than those in Australia, as low as 30 km/h for most residential streets. We are not aware that these low urban speed limits pose undue difficulties for motorcyclists and/or moped riders in these countries. As you have indicated, lower speeds result in significantly less severe injuries should a collision or fall occur.
In response to your comments about the need for rider training, I can only reiterate that the introduction of a Graduated Rider Training and Licensing program is being explored by the Department for Planning and Infrastructure. Based on a review of informed successful practice on motorcycle training and licensing, the Department for Planning and Infrastructure is currently developing a Graduated Rider Training and Licensing program for motorcyclists that will enhance the way motorcyclists are practically assessed for their licence.
Yours sincerely
Customer Service Coordinator
Office of Road Safety
Tel No.9222 9922
Fax No.9325 2817
Dear Mr Arrow
Thank you for your continuing correspondence regarding motorcyclist safety.
In response to your comments about the controllability of motorcycles at low speed, you will undoubtedly be aware that many other countries (particularly in Europe) have urban speed limits that are significantly less than those in Australia, as low as 30 km/h for most residential streets. We are not aware that these low urban speed limits pose undue difficulties for motorcyclists and/or moped riders in these countries. As you have indicated, lower speeds result in significantly less severe injuries should a collision or fall occur.
In response to your comments about the need for rider training, I can only reiterate that the introduction of a Graduated Rider Training and Licensing program is being explored by the Department for Planning and Infrastructure. Based on a review of informed successful practice on motorcycle training and licensing, the Department for Planning and Infrastructure is currently developing a Graduated Rider Training and Licensing program for motorcyclists that will enhance the way motorcyclists are practically assessed for their licence.
Yours sincerely
Customer Service Coordinator
Office of Road Safety
Tel No.9222 9922
Fax No.9325 2817
Thankyou for your response the my emails, mabey the Office of Road safety
can elevate the correspondence with an open forum with interested parties
like the MRAWA, PSB, WASCC, MCRCWA etc. You had recent talks with the MRAWA
that was unfruitful due to your departments dislike for motorcyclists and
unwillingness to listen to the needs of motorcyclists as i am sure you are
aware as a person that has or should have held numerous license classes and
partaken in advanced driver and rider training, motorcyclists have unique
road safety requirements that differ to that of 4-wheeled vehicles. This
requirement warrants a separate department and not a 'blanket' approach for
road safety.
You would have done research into the rate of deaths in 'Europe' and
particularly the United Kingdom where before the introduction of
speed-camera devices the road toll has been continually decreasing from a
peak in the 1970's, up until the introduction of speed-camera devices where
the road toll remained constant and did not decrease. I take your comments
about lowering limits working in european countries and agree, in a highly
populated area it will work however traffic will naturally decrease speed
with increase in volume. The German auto-bahn must therefore have at least
100 deaths per day according to the Office of road Safety as they are
travelling in far above the maximum limits imposed in a draconian fashion in
Western Australia.
Now the motorcycling association I am a member of have been doing research
into Motorcycle Awareness programs implemented in numbers other countries
with great results, I fail to recall even one single program run by the
Office of Road safety in regards to paying attention to motorcycles and with
the increase in use due to the environmental benefits im sure you are aware
this is a need to address.
I also have failed to recieve a response in regards to whether or not your
department runs all employees through Advanced Driver and Rider training
programs ? Surely as the body of road safety you should be leading the way
in driver and rider education ?
Finally Grant Dorrington does not hold a motorcycle license nor a heavy
vehicle license, how is the head of the Office of Road Safety thinking that
he can even think about making decisions that will benefit all road users
when he does not even know how to start a motorcycle ? We (Motorcyclists)
will be pushing for his resignation or sacking and instating a competent
party that is actually INTERESTED in road safety, I know of many people who
work within a road instruction background and even licensing, have held all
license classes for numerous years and is interested in road safety,
something your department seems to lack.
Speak to you again soon.
Benjamin Arrow
can elevate the correspondence with an open forum with interested parties
like the MRAWA, PSB, WASCC, MCRCWA etc. You had recent talks with the MRAWA
that was unfruitful due to your departments dislike for motorcyclists and
unwillingness to listen to the needs of motorcyclists as i am sure you are
aware as a person that has or should have held numerous license classes and
partaken in advanced driver and rider training, motorcyclists have unique
road safety requirements that differ to that of 4-wheeled vehicles. This
requirement warrants a separate department and not a 'blanket' approach for
road safety.
You would have done research into the rate of deaths in 'Europe' and
particularly the United Kingdom where before the introduction of
speed-camera devices the road toll has been continually decreasing from a
peak in the 1970's, up until the introduction of speed-camera devices where
the road toll remained constant and did not decrease. I take your comments
about lowering limits working in european countries and agree, in a highly
populated area it will work however traffic will naturally decrease speed
with increase in volume. The German auto-bahn must therefore have at least
100 deaths per day according to the Office of road Safety as they are
travelling in far above the maximum limits imposed in a draconian fashion in
Western Australia.
Now the motorcycling association I am a member of have been doing research
into Motorcycle Awareness programs implemented in numbers other countries
with great results, I fail to recall even one single program run by the
Office of Road safety in regards to paying attention to motorcycles and with
the increase in use due to the environmental benefits im sure you are aware
this is a need to address.
I also have failed to recieve a response in regards to whether or not your
department runs all employees through Advanced Driver and Rider training
programs ? Surely as the body of road safety you should be leading the way
in driver and rider education ?
Finally Grant Dorrington does not hold a motorcycle license nor a heavy
vehicle license, how is the head of the Office of Road Safety thinking that
he can even think about making decisions that will benefit all road users
when he does not even know how to start a motorcycle ? We (Motorcyclists)
will be pushing for his resignation or sacking and instating a competent
party that is actually INTERESTED in road safety, I know of many people who
work within a road instruction background and even licensing, have held all
license classes for numerous years and is interested in road safety,
something your department seems to lack.
Speak to you again soon.
Benjamin Arrow
Cheers
Ben
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