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  • Norton 961 SE Commando First Look

    Cannot find this reported elsewhere, but may have been in general posts... have always liked Nortons........

    Norton 961 SE Commando First Look - 2010 Street Bike First Look - Motorcycle USA

    Norton 961 SE Commando First Look


    Ian Kerr
    Contributing Editor | Articles | RSS | Blog | Blog RSSOur man in Europe, Ian delivers a monthly dose of those tasty rumors and hearsay from across the pond that make up our Euro Gossip column.



    Monday, August 17, 2009

    It now looks like September could see the first of the new Norton 961 SE Commandos rolling off the production line. Although very similar in appearance to the ‘Kenny Dreer’ machine, it has been totally re-engineered and now boasts fuel injection.

    The motor remains a pushrod Parallel Twin and is expected to give 80-85 hp in its final form. The frame too remains as per the prototype, BST carbon fiber wheels, Ohlin’s forks and twin rear shocks; along with Brembo brakes also mirror the original. Only 200 of these new machines will be built, all coming with a numbered plaque, costing £15,995.

    Stuart Garner and his team though are remaining tight lipped about future models, proffering to concentrate on fulfilling the orders for the new SE model and establish confidence that the historic brand is back as modern day manufacturer before promising further models!

    Norton 961 SE Commando Specifications

    2010 Norton 961 SE Commando
    FRAME
    Frame: Steel tubular cradle with integral oil tank
    Swing arm: steel construction
    Wheelbase: 1420mm (55.9 in)
    Rake: 24.5 degrees
    Trail: 99mm (3.9 in)
    Front suspension: 43mm Ohlins RWU - Adjustable preload, compression, and rebound damping.
    Rear suspension: Ohlins reservoir-style twin shocks - Adjustable ride height, preload, compression, and rebound damping.
    Front wheel: 3.50 X 17" BST Carbon Fibre
    Rear wheel: 5.50 X 17" BST Carbon Fibre
    Front tire: 120/70 X 17"
    Rear tire: 180/55 X 17"
    Front wheel travel: 115mm (4.53 in)
    Rear wheel travel: 100mm (3.94)

    BRAKES & HYDRAULICS
    Brembo 320mm semi-floating hi carbon stainless steel front discs
    Brembo 220mm rear disc
    Brembo 4 piston "Gold Line" axially mounted front callipers
    Brembo 2 piston "Gold Line" rear calliper
    Brembo “Gold line” front brake master cylinder
    Brembo “Gold line” hydraulic clutch master cylinder
    Brembo rear brake master cylinder
    Brembo hydraulic clutch actuation slave cylinder

    POWER ASSEMBLY
    Engine type: Parallel twin with push-rod valve actuation, dry sump
    Displacement: 961 cc
    Cooling system: Air
    Valve Actuation: Push rod, hydraulic lifter, two valves per cylinder
    Bore x stroke: 88 mm X 79 mm
    Compression ratio: 10.1:1
    Power: 80PS @ 6500RPM
    Torque: 90Nm @ 5200RPM
    Exhaust:1 3/4" header system with merged collector and twin silencers with catalytic converters.
    Ignition: Crank fired electronic
    Euro 3 compliant with electronic fuel injection and multiple 3 way catalytic converters

    CARBON PACK
    Front mudguard
    Chain guard
    Rear wheel hugger
    Rear number plate hanger
    Headlight mounting
    Front wheel
    Rear wheel

    TRANSMISSION
    Gearbox: constant mesh 5 speed
    Final drive: 525 "O" ring chain
    Wet clutch
    Electric start

    ELECTRONICS & CONTROLS
    Charging system: 300 watt hi-output charging system
    Instrumentation: Norton electronic analogue speedo and tachometer with dual trip meters and ‘hidden until lit’ warning lights

    MISCELLANEOUS
    Fuel tank capacity: 17l (4.5 US gallon)
    Dry weight: 188kg (414.5 lbs)
    Seat height: 813mm (32 in)
    Billet machined upper yoke
    Billet machined lower yoke
    Tapered aluminium handle bars
    Specifications are subject to change without notice.
    However, FJ and Uncle Ho (MyFX) are 2 examples of people that dont fit this genre but fit into the forum well as well respected members.

  • #2
    I like it!

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    • #3
      It does look great, but the bite doesn't really match the bark. 80 horses really isn't much at all, not from an injected litrebike
      For LAMS information and resources - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-156358/
      For LAMS discussion and to ask questions - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-143289/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by barfridge View Post
        It does look great, but the bite doesn't really match the bark. 80 horses really isn't much at all, not from an injected litrebike
        Out of a air cooled pushrod motor that actually passes emissions thats the going rate, probally only redlines at around 8k anyway.
        Harvey community radio has a motorcycling show listen over the web here www.harveycommunityradio.com.au ,Facebook here http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mo...34691323302991 yes I am the goose that hosts it.

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        • #5
          Norton Racing Ltd is already in development of a new rotary engined race bike and now with the ownership of the brand itself plans are being developed to introduce a new road bike for 2009.
          Now that's news

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          • #6
            I understand that.

            But then why add all the ohlins & brembo fruit? It's either a performance bike or a retro naked? It just seems to me to be a strange mix of both.
            For LAMS information and resources - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-156358/
            For LAMS discussion and to ask questions - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-143289/

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            • #7
              Weird also.

              Add carbon wheels to reduce unsprung weight but go with exotic RWU forks?

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              • #8
                proffering to concentrate on fulfilling the orders for the new SE model and establish confidence that the historic brand is back as modern day manufacturer before promising further models!
                modern day push-rod air cooled motor?

                about as modern as an early model water pump.
                As a general rule, the better it felt when you said it, the more trouble it's going to get you into.

                'Soul' - Italian word for unreliability.

                For a way to start racing cheap, go here > http://supermotowa.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by barfridge View Post
                  I understand that.

                  But then why add all the ohlins & brembo fruit? It's either a performance bike or a retro naked? It just seems to me to be a strange mix of both.
                  80hp is still enough to push you to around 220kph its nice to have that kind of stuff under you at those kind of speeds.
                  Harvey community radio has a motorcycling show listen over the web here www.harveycommunityradio.com.au ,Facebook here http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mo...34691323302991 yes I am the goose that hosts it.

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                  • #10
                    I don't care. I fucking love it.

                    Who wants to buy me one??? Anybody??

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                    • #11
                      I'm a Norton fan. But I don't know about this bike, they don't seem to know whether they are going to be a modern bike builder or follow Triumph and build modern tech, old fashion bikes. I love vintage bikes but I don't see the point in using a vintage tech engine with high-tech running gear in a mix and match styled bike that doesn't seem to look modern or old. I know lots of people love it but for me, it just seems to be not-right. Hopefully when they get their new engines up and running in some modern styled bikes they can revisit the "classic" styling properly.

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                      • #12
                        Well as someone who runs around on a vintage tech motor with (for the early 90's) high tech running gear i understand why it is done. Typically with these kinds of brands (the relaunch of MV been the obious one) they'll bring out a uber expensive exclusive model with all the tasty bits to make a big splash and get the product and its look in peoples mind then start pumping out the production series at a price a lot of people are more likely to afford.
                        Harvey community radio has a motorcycling show listen over the web here www.harveycommunityradio.com.au ,Facebook here http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mo...34691323302991 yes I am the goose that hosts it.

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                        • #13
                          Have a look at the new NRV588 Rotary Racer then...... unfortunately did practice at TT but never started!!!! Engine is 588cc twin-rotor Wankel type.
                          • Projected at 170 BHP @ 11,500 RPM
                          • Max torque 80 Ibs ft, at variable rpm


                          Plus the road edition due for production in 2010.



                          However, FJ and Uncle Ho (MyFX) are 2 examples of people that dont fit this genre but fit into the forum well as well respected members.

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                          • #14
                            aahhg soo shiny. Ands soo much want.
                            Alcohol preserves
                            ANYTHING
                            but Secrets

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by barfridge View Post
                              I understand that.

                              But then why add all the ohlins & brembo fruit? It's either a performance bike or a retro naked? It just seems to me to be a strange mix of both.
                              because Brembo and Ohlins sell ...especially for $30K+

                              ps it needs clipons too

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