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    Hey all ,
    I have a 1998 GSXR 750 ... SRAD. EFI
    I run NGK plugs, and she has done 32000km

    now the problem ... every 1-2000km the spark plug on the fourth piston dies. I pull the plug and it is black !!!
    She will run like crap back fire and shudder and it nearly always happens when I am no where near home. I replaced all plugs 2500 km ago because number 4 died.
    1200km later number 4 dies again ... so replaced just that one plug and she ran sweet.
    Today on the way home the number 4 dies again .... so in with another brand new one and she runs sweet as again ...

    My question is , does it sound like a coil pack on the way out ? BEING ON THE BONES OF MY ARSE lately so I can't afford to pay a mech workshop endless hours of probing.

    Thanks for any input
    Brad

  • #2
    Sounds like your dumping heaps of fuel or oil in number 4 cylinder (post pics btw)
    "Some people are like clouds. When they disappear it's a beautiful day"

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    • #3
      Black and wet, or sooty? Coil is easy to check, swap it to another cylinder and see if the same plug fouls, or the fouling follows the coil
      Originally posted by Skut
      ...the problem is that no-one wants to listen to an expert, just to have their own position/circumstance supported or be acknowledged.

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      • #4
        the plug is black and wet .... most times ... tonight its black dry powdery ...I will try and gets some pics of the plugs tomorrow in the light

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        • #5
          Need 3 things: fuel, air, spark.

          If it smells like fuel, it's not fuel.

          Which leaves air and spark. New plug = should spark unless the coil is fucked?

          Maybe put new plugs in, and swap the coil pack with another cylinder (if it has coil per cylinder) and see if the problem moves?



          If it's not spark..... maybe something more serious.
          “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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          • #6
            WHaloS...

            You may have a dirty injector...

            14 year old bike with only 32,000km, means it has spent time just sitting...

            A good way to gum up injectors...

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            • #7
              Ok thanks so much for all input !!
              The injector idea ... I only run 98 fuel and have chucked the NULON injector cleaner in every third tank ...
              The coil idea .. I will investigate this Friday as its my only day off until after new year

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SITH View Post
                Ok thanks so much for all input !!
                The injector idea ... I only run 98 fuel and have chucked the NULON injector cleaner in every third tank ...
                The coil idea .. I will investigate this Friday as its my only day off until after new year
                If the injectors are gummed up, injector cleaner won't do shit.

                On a bike that old with that few kays i'd be pulling them out and getting them ultrasonically cleaned.
                “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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                • #9
                  Only running 98 fuel may be part of the problem

                  I only run 98 these days if 95 isn't available or I know I'll empty the tank the same day, leaving that shit sit tends to cause problems with my bikes
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                  • #10
                    Thro ,
                    can you recommend anyone in our area ?
                    thanks in advance
                    Brad

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                    • #11
                      move the coil first mate.
                      free to try.
                      The greatest excitement comes from besting who you were yesterday.

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                      • #12
                        I got injectors cleaned on my old cage a while back, i forget who I used unfortunately.

                        And yeah, what [MENTION=14762]96[/MENTION] said. Do the free stuff first.
                        “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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                        • #13
                          Do a compression test - sounds like number 4 might be low. When was the last time you checked the valve clearances?
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                          • #14
                            Put me down for rings on number four.
                            -

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                            • #15
                              Coil, cable or cap.
                              Smoke me a kipper...I'll be home in time for breakfast

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