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    As one of the resident instructors on PSB, I figure maybe instead of creating a thread and getting 75,000 replies with information that is not quiet correct, we could have a dedicated one just for this.

    So if you want to ask a licence/learners permit related question, feel free to post up. I dont get on PSB every night but there are a couple of instructors, examiners and well experience shadows on PSB that hopefully will also be able to answer your questions for you if I don't get to it before them.

  • #2
    Excellent idea SIKPUPY

    i will start the ball rolling SIKPUPY with this one for ya. (sorry if it has been done before)

    Does your R-E licence equal your R permit or do you have to go and and get another bit of paper and pay the $$$ for the R permit. cheers

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    • #3
      I've written this up in more detail a few times...

      If you have an R-E licence, you can display L plates and operate an R class motorcycle on the roads when accompanied by a shadow who has held the class for at least four years. To book a practical riding assessment for the R class, you are still required to pay for an R class permit and complete an eye test. Once you have paid for the R class permit, you MUST carry it with you when riding an R class vehicle even though you were not required to have it prior. Pretty much, you don't need the permit to learn as long as you have your R-E, but to book an assessment you need it, and once you have it you are bound by it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ryven View Post
        Pretty much, you don't need the permit to learn as long as you have your R-E, but to book an assessment you need it, and once you have it you are bound by it.
        In a Nutshell.

        People keep asking and they are referred to the official website that explains it, but the lines above should be written on the blackboard until understood.
        Being an Australian is not an excuse for being dumb and racist.

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        • #5
          Cheers Ryven

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          • #6
            I like the idea! Here's one for you.

            Does an RE licence holder with Paid R learners permit, have to display an L plate when riding an R class bike c/w shadow?

            I ask because my first instructor gave myself the usual L vest to wear when riding with him yet my new riding instructor says that It is not required.
            Both instructors involved have been "in the game" a very long time and I find it's a bit confusing that two seasoned riding instructors would disagree on this point.

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            • #7
              Would like to know this also as im a R learner

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              • #8
                legally you must wear the "L" if you are learning no matter what.
                Our Father, Who art at Phillip Island, Hallowed be thy name
                Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done
                In the backroads as it is on the freeway
                Give us this day our high-octane premium fuel
                And forgive us our lanesplitting
                As we forgive the four wheel drives, the volvos and the taxis
                And lead us not into gravel corners
                But deliver us from hand-held radars
                For thine is thy leather, thy denim, thy Gore-Tex and thy Kevlar
                Amen ORIGINAL POST BY DEB

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by killswitch54923 View Post
                  legally you must wear the "L" if you are learning no matter what.
                  This. In all cases where you are operating a vehicle on a learners permit under supervision, you must display L plates visible from the front and rear of the vehicle. There is a standard size for the plates and font width, however I've never heard of anyone having issue from the law for displaying L plates and font larger than the standard size, such as on the back of a riding school jacket or the type truck schools use. Likewise the regulations stipulate "plates", however police seem to be more interested in whether or not you have them, and whether or not the font is at least the standard size as opposed to whether or not they are on a "plate".

                  The only time where a "learner" does not require L plates is during their practical driving/riding assessments, where you are effectively a licenced driver/rider for the duration of the assessment. Meaning, by all rights, it would be an offense for you to display the plates falsely...

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                  • #10
                    When did you get your instructors licence mate?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Desmogod View Post
                      When did you get your instructors licence mate?
                      Do you have one?

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                      • #12
                        thank guys, i shall write them on the black board till understood

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Desmogod View Post
                          When did you get your instructors licence mate?
                          Maybe later.

                          In the mean time, as SIKPUPY said, he doesn't get on here that often and there are others on here capable of providing answers. If I see the question first and I know the answer/am familiar with the legislation if that's what it relates to, I'm happy to help.

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                          • #14
                            Is 1 shadow required per learner or can you have 2 learners per shadow?
                            Is p plates required to be displayed after gaining R-E license (i have done the p plate stuff for car lic 6 years ago) ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by upg View Post
                              Is 1 shadow required per learner or can you have 2 learners per shadow?
                              Is p plates required to be displayed after gaining R-E license (i have done the p plate stuff for car lic 6 years ago) ?
                              P plate one is easy, you are only required to display P Plates for your first licence in WA at this stage, however after 2012 you will probably need to display P's and abide to all relevant restrictions but we will see what happens.

                              As for the Shadow question, this is a bit of a grey area. I personally have not been able to dig up much information in regards to this, the documentation seems to state that you must be with a licensed rider/instructor but doesnt tell how many people an instructor/rider is able to shadow for. The issue with taking multiple learners is that you are responsible for the safety of 2 people and depending on the circumstances can proove to be quite difficult especially in 4pm traffic. I wouldn't reccomend it unless you are 100% comfortable with the skills of both riders.

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