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    So Google is telling me today is Dame Nellie Melba's 150th birthday.

    Now I have no doubt she was born on 19 May, so that will always be her birthday, no matter that she's passed.

    But it sounds a bit strange saying it's her 150th birthday.

    I mean, it would be if she were alive. But she's not. Hasn't been for quite some time, either.

    It's a bit like turning up to work and announcing to everyone that it's your granddad's 100th birthday that day:

    "Wow, that's fantastic! Are you going to visit him?"
    "No, he was blown to bits over France in 1940."
    Originally posted by Melkor
    The Saint is all over the answer like a Saint on a cupcake.

  • #2
    She was born today, 150 years ago, how is it not her birthday?

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    • #3
      Like I said, I don't doubt that it's her birthday.

      But it's not really her 150th birthday, is it? I mean, she was out for 70.
      Originally posted by Melkor
      The Saint is all over the answer like a Saint on a cupcake.

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      • #4
        But it's her birt hday, not her death day.
        Granted, she isn't 150, but it is still her birthday.

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        • #5
          It is the 150th anniversary of her birthday.
          No problems there.
          It is not her 150th birthday however, unless she is still alive to have had 150 birthdays. See the difference?
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          • #6
            I think I see "nth birthday" as a measure of longevity. If you're no longer kicking, the count ought to stop. You no longer "have" birthdays.

            It's just the anniversary of her birth.
            Originally posted by Melkor
            The Saint is all over the answer like a Saint on a cupcake.

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            • #7
              See, rabbit knows what's what.
              Originally posted by Melkor
              The Saint is all over the answer like a Saint on a cupcake.

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              • #8
                Tim's right.
                Rabbit's right.
                Jim's wrong.


                The end......

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                • #9
                  I'm with the cesspool of sorrow in this one. You don't get any more birthdays once you're dead. Sorry, it's just silly.

                  "Let's celebrate surviving one more year".

                  "Um, yeah, ok Ms Mouldering Corpse, let's... "
                  "Once upon a time we would obey in public, but in private we would be cynical; today, we announce cynicism, but in private we obey."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Saint View Post

                    But it's not really her 150th birthday, is it? I mean, she was out for 70.
                    This is undeniably the right way of looking at it. If you go to the zoo every Australia day for 10 years only you havent been for the last 5 years, you cant say you have been to the zoo 10 times. Yes thats a stupid example but so is the 150th birthday example.
                    My mum always used to say, when life hands you lemons "kill mob within spell duration with a soul gem of adequate quality for the mob's level to trap its soul"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Saint View Post
                      I think I see "nth birthday" as a measure of longevity. If you're no longer kicking, the count ought to stop. You no longer "have" birthdays.

                      It's just the anniversary of her birth.
                      Same book, different page. I don't see a birthday as a measure of longevity, I see it as the day you were born.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I don't disagree.

                        It's the cumulative aspect that I'm railing against.
                        Originally posted by Melkor
                        The Saint is all over the answer like a Saint on a cupcake.

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                        • #13
                          Correct, it's the person's birthday on that particular day 150 years ago. Not cumulative, as most of what was her is now broken down and part of something else.

                          It's a bit like turning up to work and announcing to everyone that it's your granddad's 100th birthday that day:

                          "Wow, that's fantastic! Are you going to visit him?"
                          "No, he was blown to bits over France in 1940."
                          For some reason made me think of this great joke, relevant for age differences.

                          Originally posted by Abuse this
                          Get a load of this pussy, he wouldn't travel back in time to murder a baby.

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                          • #14
                            Haha. Nice.

                            +rep.
                            "Once upon a time we would obey in public, but in private we would be cynical; today, we announce cynicism, but in private we obey."

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                            • #15
                              ^LOL at Mekon

                              Agree with The Saint on this.
                              Birthdays are something living people have.

                              It's like one of "same word with 2 meanings" such as "close" or "read".
                              Yes today is her birthday in the sense she was born today, but its not her birthday in the sense she is dead, and cant accumulate any more of them.
                              Respect is earned, not enforced.

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