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    Hi PSB brain trust colective
    Can you please tell me how hard is it to replace triple lock on security doors without taking it apart? I have Westral security door and Austral triple lock installed some 16-17 years ago

    Maybe paging [MENTION=7479]keys[/MENTION]

    3-4 days ago a problem has occurred, I will try to explain.

    You have this latch on inside of security door which allows you to lock/unlock the door without a key , but it can be locked with the key and it cannot be opened by hand ( just in case thieves try to cut flynet and stick fingers thru to push the latch and unlock it). Here is where the problem is. We can lock the door by hand and open it but when locked with key it can be opened by hand. Something has gone wrong somewhere.



    Looking at security doors, it seems that these consist of 4 parts ( 2 bottom & 2 sides) riveted together, and I cannot see any other way of replacing it without taking door off of hinges and drilling rivets out to get to the locking mechanism... That seems way to much trouble.

    So off to you brain trust, please throw some ideas and suggestions.
    Originally posted by SIR sparks a lot
    remember opinions are like assholes everybody will have one
    Here lies the body of Dorian Grey
    Who died while defending his right of way;
    He was right, oh so right, as he journeyed along
    But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong



  • #2
    Originally posted by acdcfan View Post
    Hi PSB brain trust colective
    Can you please tell me how hard is it to replace triple lock on security doors without taking it apart? I have Westral security door and Austral triple lock installed some 16-17 years ago

    Maybe paging [MENTION=7479]keys[/MENTION]

    3-4 days ago a problem has occurred, I will try to explain.

    You have this latch on inside of security door which allows you to lock/unlock the door without a key , but it can be locked with the key and it cannot be opened by hand ( just in case thieves try to cut flynet and stick fingers thru to push the latch and unlock it). Here is where the problem is. We can lock the door by hand and open it but when locked with key it can be opened by hand. Something has gone wrong somewhere.



    Looking at security doors, it seems that these consist of 4 parts ( 2 bottom & 2 sides) riveted together, and I cannot see any other way of replacing it without taking door off of hinges and drilling rivets out to get to the locking mechanism... That seems way to much trouble.

    So off to you brain trust, please throw some ideas and suggestions.
    Like most things these days lots of locks are cheap and 16 years is about thier life span , at a guess a cast component in the lock case has shit itself, cheapest and easiest way to repair would be to whip the door off and drop it off to your local locksmith , will save you the drama of working out what lock or parts need replacement , you don't need to pull the door apart .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by keys View Post
      Like most things these days lots of locks are cheap and 16 years is about thier life span , at a guess a cast component in the lock case has shit itself, cheapest and easiest way to repair would be to whip the door off and drop it off to your local locksmith , will save you the drama of working out what lock or parts need replacement , you don't need to pull the door apart .
      Thanks [MENTION=7479]keys[/MENTION].... How long does it usually takes for repair? 1 day or longer?
      Originally posted by SIR sparks a lot
      remember opinions are like assholes everybody will have one
      Here lies the body of Dorian Grey
      Who died while defending his right of way;
      He was right, oh so right, as he journeyed along
      But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong


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      • #4
        Would depend on parts needed /stocked , Take some photos of the Lock and ask them ( I just do safes these days )

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        • #5
          [MENTION=33989]HeyBrew[/MENTION] is the PSB commercial/residential locksmithing expert.

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          • #6
            Triple locking only engages when key is turned so will be something wrong with either the top or bottom part, most common is the alignment with the strike.

            Best test is to hold the door open and press the top part of the latch (You will see its in two parts) and then try turn the key, if it locks then it is the alignment and if not then as Keys said take it to your local locksmith.

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            • #7
              I've got the same door and lock system, having exactly the same issue at the moment..
              Might do as above and take door off and to a shop

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              • #8
                mmmm My security screen door is the same ..WTF?

                Found it open the other Thursday when i got home....and some shit jammed in the glass door track..

                ( I've seen this before in a sliding window track in a motel in Carnarvon...can be opened from outside with a spoon....)

                A hard slam fixed mine.. ( clean out track ) and pruned trees and shit hangin over fences....damn kids!
                " Imagination is the seed of life..."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HeyBrew View Post
                  Triple locking only engages when key is turned so will be something wrong with either the top or bottom part, most common is the alignment with the strike.

                  Best test is to hold the door open and press the top part of the latch (You will see its in two parts) and then try turn the key, if it locks then it is the alignment and if not then as Keys said take it to your local locksmith.
                  That's incorrect. The triple locking works with the snib aswell not just the key.

                  [MENTION=39755]acdcfan[/MENTION] your in Kallaroo aren't you?
                  You don't need to take the door off.
                  If you lock it with the key and then can unlock with the snib your lock is fucked as keys said.

                  The problem you will have is the distance between the lock and the triple locking at the top and bottom of the door, there are different lengths and with how old your door is they may not make that length anymore.
                  Last edited by marras; 16-06-2018, 10:22 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marras View Post
                    That's incorrect. The triple locking works with the snib aswell not just the key.

                    [MENTION=39755]acdcfan[/MENTION] your in Kallaroo aren't you?
                    You don't need to take the door off.
                    If you lock it with the key and then can unlock with the snib your lock is fucked as keys said.

                    The problem you will have is the distance between the lock and the triple locking at the top and bottom of the door, there are different lengths and with how old your door is they may not make that length anymore.
                    Which part of the lock? No I am not in Kallaroo , I am SOR

                    Barrel or actual door lock? Mind you I can still lock it with the key and unlock it from outside. It can be locked on the inside with the key too but it can be opened by hand which was not the case few days ago.
                    Originally posted by SIR sparks a lot
                    remember opinions are like assholes everybody will have one
                    Here lies the body of Dorian Grey
                    Who died while defending his right of way;
                    He was right, oh so right, as he journeyed along
                    But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong


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                    • #11
                      Look at whirlpool forum
                      " Imagination is the seed of life..."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GsxInShed View Post
                        Look at whirlpool forum
                        Look for what exactly....
                        Originally posted by SIR sparks a lot
                        remember opinions are like assholes everybody will have one
                        Here lies the body of Dorian Grey
                        Who died while defending his right of way;
                        He was right, oh so right, as he journeyed along
                        But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong


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                        • #13
                          I simply searched whirlpool...for " triple lock security screen door lock fail" yeh long winded hey.?

                          For a few years there have been issues with certain brands of door.. 2 x main manufacturers ..

                          Shoddy fitting-poor alignment- what to use for lube..etc etc....

                          I know enough now to be able to fix your door....so the info on there should help you as well.
                          " Imagination is the seed of life..."

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                          • #14
                            I would say the snib lock out has broken off. As you lock the door with the key an internal lever moves over the snib button making it inoperative...in the ones I have fixed. I have sourced new locks from security door manufacturers before now...as long as they use the same make.

                            Good luck
                            Smoke me a kipper...I'll be home in time for breakfast

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by acdcfan View Post
                              Which part of the lock? No I am not in Kallaroo , I am SOR

                              Barrel or actual door lock? Mind you I can still lock it with the key and unlock it from outside. It can be locked on the inside with the key too but it can be opened by hand which was not the case few days ago.
                              As keys said. The lock body is fucked. Your cylinder (barrel) should be ok. There are multiple things that can be wrong but the main thing is if you lock it with the key and then you can unlock it with the snib your lock is fucked and needs replacing.

                              Your lock is that old that the triple locking will probably not fit your new lock.

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