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  • #16
    Wait a minute....

    Originally posted by Skut View Post
    edit: His performance on Q&A was extraordinary, he was always sooo quick to take offence and play victim and at the same time aggressively attacking anyone who challenged him - usually with a practiced "trap" question designed to make his opponent look foolish while actually having little substance behind it at all. Parlour tricks to make himself look clever (hence the plethora of "Peterson DESTROYS... (insert whatever) vids on the Toobs posted by his adoring fans. .
    Originally posted by Skut View Post
    No, he's absolutely right. I'm actually a rabid separatist feminist and I shot Andy Warhol before I transitioned to go underground as a beta cuck emasculating the REAL men and spreading Marxist propaganda and dismantling the corrupt capitalist patriarchy from their own ranks.

    That damn meddling kid saw right through me...
    Trying to think of a wise and sincere signature quote, but the only words that leap to mind are, "TITTY SPRINKLES"

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    • #17
      "Can we all at least agree that men are taller than women....?"

      "... no"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Commander Keen View Post
        People would never call themselves those things,
        Like paedophiles and narcissist psychopaths?
        “How people treat you is their karma; how you respond is yours.”

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mr Bean View Post
          Like paedophiles and narcissist psychopaths?
          Oh, are we talking about Pell or Trump now?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Skut View Post
            He does pieces for Prager U.

            Enuff said.

            Just the same, I believe in his right to speak about whatever and for those to listen if they choose.

            .
            So rather than debate what he says..you simply want to judge him by what "group" he belongs to? Funnily, Jordan hates group identity.

            Originally posted by chew View Post
            I have only seen him on the you tube "destroy" videos, which come across as populist garbage with little substance. Based on that I probably should not comment.

            Anyone who is that concerned about the dangers of "feminism", "new socialism", "PC brigade" et al needs to get a life or a job or both and get on with it.

            he actually detests people using his speeches and labeling them with "destroys...." Thats just click bait.

            Maybe I'm hearing something different but most of what he says is tips on how to live your life. On feminism and PC he is merely debating the topic.

            Something the feminists and PC brigade don't want to engage in. He is alos against the far left from "teaching" their BS at Universities.. Do you support that?do you think grown ups need "safe spaces" ?

            You talk about getting a job etc....Jo Biden has a job and look at the 5hit he is in over what??? STF.

            At what point would you take the far left, the "feminists" etc seriously?
            Last edited by datsikk; 02-04-2019, 07:52 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by datsikk View Post
              So rather than debate what he says..you simply want to judge him by what "group" he belongs to? Funnily, Jordan hates group identity.
              When someone accepts money from and appears for bizzaro, fundamentalist religious, bogus organisations with a history of promulgating partisan political propaganda? Funnily, yes

              He sells a particular kind of snake oil. His "self-help" book is just a plagiarized collection of existing self-help mantras dressed up with some pseudo-philosophy. I have watched plenty of his debates, and a few of his talks as well and for much of it he is diving into philosophical name-drops and using language to make what he is saying seem much more sophisticated than it actually is, which impresses his sycophants and clearly is mean't to make them also feel "clever" (which then back-fires when they trot out his talking points almost verbatim during a discussion). He uses the same technique when he dresses-down a dissenting comment or question with blatant "gotcha" tactics and straw-man arguments (something that should be beneath him for his supposed level of debating skill and experience). He then uses the same pseudo-philosophical arguments to support his overt political views while at the same time seeming to confuse postmodernism with Marxism, which is... weird?

              By all means, people can find value in some of what he says, but I wouldn't trust it personally as a whole guide to living - it seems a critique of things in the modern day that he doesn't like personally (like student activism or feminism for example, or not being able to hit women - yes, he said that)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Skut View Post
                When someone accepts money from and appears for bizzaro, fundamentalist religious, bogus organisations with a history of promulgating partisan political propaganda? Funnily, yes

                He sells a particular kind of snake oil. His "self-help" book is just a plagiarized collection of existing self-help mantras dressed up with some pseudo-philosophy. I have watched plenty of his debates, and a few of his talks as well and for much of it he is diving into philosophical name-drops and using language to make what he is saying seem much more sophisticated than it actually is, which impresses his sycophants and clearly is mean't to make them also feel "clever" (which then back-fires when they trot out his talking points almost verbatim during a discussion). He uses the same technique when he dresses-down a dissenting comment or question with blatant "gotcha" tactics and straw-man arguments (something that should be beneath him for his supposed level of debating skill and experience). He then uses the same pseudo-philosophical arguments to support his overt political views while at the same time seeming to confuse postmodernism with Marxism, which is... weird?

                By all means, people can find value in some of what he says, but I wouldn't trust it personally as a whole guide to living - it seems a critique of things in the modern day that he doesn't like personally (like student activism or feminism for example, or not being able to hit women - yes, he said that)
                #Walkaway
                The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AZAZL View Post
                  I see what you did there

                  However; there are a few crucial differences.

                  I am not a self-appointed "expert" on human behaviour selling books and charging large fees for speaking engagements, I am just some mug on an internet forum who was asked to clarify an opinion - which I did.

                  So, touche to you....

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                  • #24
                    Pushing the buttons eh [MENTION=17857]Skut[/MENTION] yeah, it's cheap.

                    The Jordon Peterson guy... His handle is that slight emphysemic annunciation that adds a bit of, well, authenticity to his statements. That try as I may, The result is sliding in and out of attention. Homer Simpson chasing thought squirrels.

                    I guess some of his stuff is pretty straightforward when he's talking about rational questions. Drift off into 'metaphysical' and glaze over the best response.
                    .
                    The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by datsikk View Post
                      So rather than debate what he says..you simply want to judge him by what "group" he belongs to? Funnily, Jordan hates group identity.
                      Jordan? Friend of yours?

                      Originally posted by datsikk View Post
                      he actually detests people using his speeches and labeling them with "destroys...." Thats just click bait.

                      Maybe I'm hearing something different but most of what he says is tips on how to live your life. On feminism and PC he is merely debating the topic.

                      Something the feminists and PC brigade don't want to engage in. He is alos against the far left from "teaching" their BS at Universities.. Do you support that? Please define "far left" and their "BS" for clarity. I believe to achieve balance all views need to be put out there. Universities have traditionally been a hot bed of alternative views and exploring different ideas. I notice the latest generation are more conservative in a lot of ways than the previous few.

                      do you think grown ups need "safe spaces" ? I have no idea what that means. Places of worship and learning should be safe?

                      You talk about getting a job etc....Jo Biden has a job and look at the 5hit he is in over what??? STF. I assume he is a seppo pollie? I have little interest in US politics except when they impact on us.

                      At what point would you take the far left, the "feminists" etc seriously? The same point I take the far right seriously.
                      I think the pendulum swings too far in either direction from time to time and due to the stupidity of those at either end of it we never really get to a good place. We are too far to the right at the moment in my opinion, hence the "noise" from the left being over reported in the media and the resultant hand wringing from the right.
                      They hung a sign up in our town "If you live it up, you won't live it down"-Tom Waits

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by datsikk View Post
                        You talk about getting a job etc....Jo Biden has a job and look at the 5hit he is in over what??? STF.
                        Who the hell is Joe Bidden??

                        please tell me you aren't just blindly regurgitating usa stuff and using it for an argument in AUSTRALIA? Or doesn't it matter anymore?


                        Originally posted by chew View Post
                        Jordan? Friend of yours?

                        I think the pendulum swings too far in either direction from time to time and due to the stupidity of those at either end of it we never really get to a good place. We are too far to the right at the moment in my opinion, hence the "noise" from the left being over reported in the media and the resultant hand wringing from the right.
                        agreed
                        I cant help it if your perceptions don't match my reality


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