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    Ok. I will let Xphread go into further detail about what exactly we are after but i'd thought I'd just get the ball rolling on this one.

    The money that we raised on the MAD Ride for Shenton Park Spinal Injuries Ward will be going into a trust fund that is used to help the patients with their everyday needs. (the Sir George Bedbrook Patients fund). This fund is currently being utilised to set up a computer room for the patients at Shents to use, specifically to acess the net and stay in contact with loved ones and the world in general.
    Now, here is our challange. To help them develop this room so that it is user friendly for people with SCI which obviuosly includes paraplegics and quadraplegics.
    This presents quite a challenge as you may imagine, especially for those unable to use their hands.
    We will need many things to assist them to achieve this, we obviously want to stretch the 5 Grand we donated as much as possible,
    We need some ideas on setups both hardware and software. Programs and user freindliness.

    Some obvious requirements would be:
    ADSL Connections.
    Wireless routers
    Hardware
    Screens and Speakers
    Webcams and microphones
    Voice recognition software
    Some toggle/hands free/voice free move with your mouth type hardware.
    Software
    Security on the hardware.
    Porn.

    The biggest one is security, Shents is a public hospital and people are coming and going all the time so we dont want the gear "walking" out the door so to speak.

    Tim had the idea of an "overhead" flat screen mounted on a rolling stand so that patients flat on their back can access the net too.
    Imagine how bad it would be not able to sit up and just staring at the roof all the time. Surley you would want to be downloading porn from Kazaa and checking the latest goss at PSB!?

    Ok Geeks of PSB unite and lets help Tim and the staff at Shents make this happen.

    Bring on your ideas, your contacts and your knowledge.

    I know we can do it. So get ya thinking caps on.

    Over to you Tim...

    Roosta.

    PS. I told Shents that the only way we would help the was if they agreed to make PSB their home page. (they looked at me strangely).

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    Is it possibility to maybe get computers etc of ebay??? Or maybe speak to suppliers on ebay and see what kind of deals they could do. Could stretch the budget just that little bit further.

    May be hit up a computer shop in regards to sponsership for next years MAD ride??? And see what deals they could do if raised funds from this year is spent there.

    ADSL connections maybe see what those atwestnet could do.

    In regards to security.... most computer equipment im around at work is secured to desks or floors by steel cables about 3 mm thick. Looped through and clamped off.

    Hopefully a bit of a help.

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    • #3
      Beat me to the punch, thanks Roost.

      Yep. We have now raised the means to Make A Difference, but as always, theres always something more we can do. It would be appreciated for any assistance in physically Making A Difference with the Shents side of the money.

      (just to clarify, Jono was the one to raise the idea of the mobile computer with overhead screen... I thought of something similar when I was in hospital, but it had slipped my mind since then... thanks for reminding me Bandit. )

      OK... what we have:
      o A smallish room (just space for 3 computers with wheelchair access.)
      o One new donated Computer.
      o One phone line, need to get an ADSL connection on it.
      o Voice recognition software of some decription.... not sure yet if its just text-to-speech or includes windows navigation and similar utils etc..
      0 $5000 from PSB... plus a little bit more from other fund raising sources. I think around $2000, but dont quote me on that yet... (will confirm budget once ideas are fleshed out more.)

      What we need:
      o 2 new(?) PCs. (rather than get refurbished or second hand, as we want minimal ongoing tech support needed?... suggest away if there are other ideas on this... )
      . - Flat panel monitors (due to limited deskspace)
      . - Ergonmic peripherals ... front USB access for keyboards/mice etc or wireless?
      . - large trackball as option for one or two PCs.
      . - webcam as option for one or two PCs
      o Security measures to have cases, monitors and peripherals secured to stop people walking away with them. Its an open ward and unfortunately you cant necessarily even trust people who have room keys.
      o ADSL connection/modem/router and continuing ADSL plan. (c'mon wesnet boys and girls? )
      o Laser printer that can be shared on all 3 machines.
      o Software (Office and similar utilites)
      o Protection software - Anti-virus, Firewall/access protection. Ghost? - for easy support?

      What we would like:

      o To set up a mobile PC on a secure, wheelable trolley, with overhead frame that holds a flatpanel monitor over a bed.
      . - Wireless keyboard & mouse would be nice
      . - Need someone with pipe bending and welding skills/equipment. Mobile, yet temporary Lockable design to stop people nicking it.
      . (a few more special requirements but will explain to whoever can help specifically here)
      . - maybe a wireless card so it can access the ADSL connection in the computer room?


      Sure theres more... but I'll add it when I remember... and when people suggest new or further ideas.

      Thanks,
      Tim.

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      • #4
        if you are interested, i have a HP Laserjet 4/4M laser printer (a postsrcipt one) sitting on my floor at home not being used, and it has the Jet Direct port already set up in it for networking..... the folks got a new one for the publishing stuff they do, and i haven't used this at all..... let me know if it is any good for you, and if there are any questions about what it is capable of, ask Chester!

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        • #5
          Talk to some computer shops?
          Anyone here work at one? Could hook up a deal and have everything stickered with the computer shops name. Ring some papers, advertising and stuff. Heaps of people work at Internet Providers, maybe they can scam a free connection for 12 months or something?
          An idea anyway.

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          • #6
            Response on the Laserjet 4 sent to Xphread.

            I think it would be ideal for this situation, would last forever, and the replacement cartidges ($63 for a 6500 page one, and $73 for an 8500 page one) would last a long time too.
            Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's, you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences!

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            • #7
              Okay... cracking knuckles...now lemme see which supplier owes me big time.

              See what I can do with that wishlist


              *** Locking Down devices sorted (cable n thingie wotzits)

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              • #8
                I love PSB.

                Thanks everyone!
                This is getting rolling almost as fast as a motorcycle.

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                • #9
                  Timbo,
                  What EXACTLY do we need as far as the ADSL connections go.
                  Aza and i will appraoch Westnet to see what they can do...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rooster@Oct 26 2005, 03:40 PM
                    Timbo,
                    What EXACTLY do we need as far as the ADSL connections go.
                    Aza and i will appraoch Westnet to see what they can do...
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                    As far as I can tell...
                    1) ADSL conenction organised for their phone line at the exchange...
                    (I can find out the phone number for you.... hmmm just thought of a problem if they have just assigned a PABX number extension....something else to check)
                    2) an ADSL account suitable to supply 3 "public" PCs with internet connection.
                    There should be some money in the budget available for ongoing Access fees if we cant wrangle a "sponsored freebee" . (but of course the more we can save the better.)
                    3) any assistance in using ISP configuration/blocking or software on the PCs to limit movie downloading, nasty stuff etc. (any stuff with serious legal implications basically :mellow: )

                    Thats all I can think of at the moment.

                    Oh... we need a 4 port ADSL router preferably with wireless access too, but dont know if they deal with that or just buy for customers and pass it on in those "get free modem" deals...
                    Carly should be able to sort us out with the wireless ones at wholesale if they cant.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by xphread@Oct 26 2005, 10:05 AM

                      What we need:
                      o 2 new(?) PCs.* (rather than get refurbished or second hand, as we want minimal ongoing tech support needed?... suggest away if there are other ideas on this...* )
                      .* - Flat panel monitors (due to limited deskspace)
                      .* - Ergonmic peripherals ... front USB access for keyboards/mice etc or wireless?
                      .* - large trackball as option for one or two PCs.
                      .* - webcam as option for one or two PCs

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                      Regarding New PCs, you can get ex lease pcs for $300 that are 4years old and are meaty specs for what you need, you may need some new hardrives ($80each) but the ones we are about to replace at work have CD drives that work at any angle, only ever give us a problem when the HDD dies. oh the ex lease pcs come ready to chain down. And sometimes, brand new pcs arent the bomb when it comes to reliablilty.

                      I like the whole portable idea using WiFi, if the monitors rotate through 90degrees then people who are sitting up or lying down can use them. If we can rig up 6? 7? on portable trolleys thats better then 3 in one room?

                      Although i believe the advantages of the PC room is that its a change of scenery, if theres other patients there a chance to say gday. So maybe go with both?

                      ex lease pcs 6x$300 = $1800
                      Flat panels 6x$350 = $2100
                      Wireless Keyboard/mouse combos (quality ones) 6x$50 = $300
                      Wifi Cards 6x $50 = $300

                      SOFTWARE COSTS = Maybe we can access software requirements through the existing licensing agreements health department has with its suppliers, my housemate is ex health department Help Desk, ill pick his brain about that.

                      = $4500 so far. that budget doesnt allow for any friendly discounts from suppliers, I have contacts i can tap, maybe other IT people do too.

                      The frames is the next challenge, but i have to leave that to the mechangineers

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                      • #12
                        To Resurrect this thread:

                        I have been making enquiries on the options to buy ex lease pcs. They havn't been returning my emails. I think a phone call is in order tommorow (although theres a feud between my employer and the disposal outfit going on at the moment which explains why they dont want to speak to me ).

                        Edit: Who was the guy on here who auctioned tech stuff at one of the auction houses? Please come forward if you read this

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                        • #13
                          To continue with this ressurection....
                          (thanks dingo)

                          Thanks very much to Mrs Cowasaki, this morning we have been given an offer of 2 brand new PCs with LCDs for the very attractive price of $0.

                          :o

                          This is awesome.... thanks everyone... keep up the good work (we are only half done yet.... )

                          So looks like we will have more budget to spend on the mobile computer unit(s) that can be wheeled to patients beds if they cant get out.
                          Its gonna be tricky for me helping with this for the next 3 weeks as I'm being sent to the US, but I can arrrange things via email etc.... and then help put the rest of it all together when I get back mid December.

                          Hopefully we can give some people a decent chrissy present despite them finding themselves in a very sucky situation this christmas...
                          PS - I got out of that place (well, first night home anyway) on Christmas Eve 3 years ago, so it would be fitting for me to have it up and running by then if we can.

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                          • #14
                            Any news on how the computer room at shents is coming along???

                            Just interested.
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                            • #15
                              Not much changed from my above post.

                              Its now hard doing things from the US, but it should pick up in 2 weeks when I get back.

                              We have 2 brand new PCs donated (thanks to Cowasaki) to go with the new one the hospital had donated to them pre-MAD.
                              Thanks to Bulbous and Chesters parents there is a laser printer for the lot to connect to.
                              In talks with Dingo at the moment who has some contacts who might be able to get us some cheap PCs for making the mobile units for wheeling bedside.

                              Still waiting on the ADSL front. Guys if you are reading this, any luck?

                              Will definately be up for some help in say 3 weeks time to configure a safe network enviroment (limited access control and firewall setup etc) as well as some assistance with pipe bending and welding for making up the mobile trollies.

                              I'll let you all know where things are and what needs doing when I'm home.

                              Thanks,
                              Tim

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