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    I'm a complete noob at gardening, but I am keen on getting started and try and have some sort of idea what I'm doing.

    My front garden is covered in rose bushes and following some online guidance, I've cut them all back and am now getting some fantastic regrowth and even a couple of buds are coming through. Unfortunately they're currently being raped and pillaged by a plague of aphids, and the blooms aren't looking so pretty.

    What's the best stuff to get to 1 - kill the aphids, and 2 - give the roses a bit of a boost? (ie: mulchy stuff)

    I also want to start a herb/chilli garden that would be low maintenance. There's a 10x1 weed garden bed that needs ripping out and giving some love. What's the basics I need to get this started? I looked online but would like advice regarding our particular climate.
    Originally posted by vk6hgr
    My Hyosung couldn't do that speed if it was dropped in from orbit.

  • #2
    My grandma has a garden front covered full of rosebushes she does every year. Sells them @ $5 a bunch.

    She swears by soapy water in a spray bottle to keep aphids away.

    Seems to work; I haven't seen any on them.
    Originally posted by Semi
    I ride slowly because I'm a massive faggot.

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    • #3
      for anything food production related; compost, manure, mulch. then fortnightly seasol. seems to work pretty well for us. oh and lots a water.

      Unless your garden bed is in the shade you may have some trouble keeping the herbs alive during the height of summer. It's not so much water related, they just burn in the harsh sun. of course things like rosemary, tyme and other more robust herbs are fine but things like basil and rocket don't do well in full sun here.

      I can't speak much for roses but a quick trip to bunnings or a nursery should get you some reasonable advise and products for dealing with aphids and rose food (pretty sure there are some products actually called "rose food").

      If you have any snail or slugs I found a good way to get rid of them was to bury a margarine container down to ground level and then half fill it with beer. Snails and Slugs are massive booze hounds and they drown in it. Strong coffee sprayed on leaves gives them heart attacks too apparently but I haven't tried it.

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      • #4
        Cant help you on the roses.. roundup the lot.

        But for the herbs-

        Make a raised bed out of whatever you like,
        lay poo, paper and straw in layers.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/12_aug10.jpg

        Bit of good growing mix.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/12_aug11.jpg

        Another thin layer of paper,
        dry lawn clippings, scraps whatever Bio's you have and more poo.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/15_aug10.jpg

        Final thick layer of paper.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/15_aug11.jpg

        Pea straw and 1000 earthworms & let it bake for a month, soli temps rising under that lot as it self composts.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/15_aug12.jpg

        Plant.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/3_oct_10.jpg

        Watch it go beserk in November.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/13_nov10.jpg

        And xmas.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/25_dec10.jpg

        Enjoy the tomaties.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/25_dec11.jpg

        Corn for everyone.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/15_jan10.jpg

        Keep throwing everything in.. all houshold scraps, fish, (everything except onions and citrus peel )let the weeds go mad, then just layer paper and straw over the lot again for the next rotation.
        http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/24/31/39/00210.jpg


        Mines ready to plant again now.
        Last edited by Aufitt; 20-10-2011, 01:50 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Daise View Post

          I also want to start a herb/chilli garden that would be low maintenance. There's a 10x1 weed garden bed that needs ripping out and giving some love. What's the basics I need to get this started? I looked online but would like advice regarding our particular climate.
          10x1 is ample , that one of mine I just showed is 6x2 and so much food for eveyone.

          dont rip whatever is there out, just put hay and paper and eveything on it like my pics..
          ending up with paper then peas sstraw on top.. let the 'lasagne' bake for a month then plant
          I started with bare lifeless coastal sand.

          Border it if it needs to contain it.
          Lavender round the outside keeps bugs away.
          sawdust outside of it keeps snails out

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          • #6
            Yates Garden Guide - Yates products this book has a lot of good info for australia for all climates.
            Wes

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            • #7
              I wouldn't go for a herb/veggie garden if you want something really low maintenance. The quality of your produce will be directly proportionate to the effort you put in. Also, depending on your area, veggies and herbs can be hard to keep bug/slug/snail/rat/bird-free. Figure out your area - is it shade/sun/arctic/tropical and then decide what will work best. Chuck in plenty of variety this first time and see what works best.

              Chilli plants are easy. Plant it and get it really well established but after that the easiest way to harm them is over watering and over feeding. Water once a week and that's all you need to do. I find if you put seasol on chilli's you just promote leaf growth at the expense of fruit. And you've got to keep picking them as they ripen, this encourages more to fruit. Don't be afraid to hack the hell out of the bush after the season. A really brutal cut will just make next seasons crop that much betterer.

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              • #8
                My herb/vege garden is NIL maintenance, water once a week if it never rains, no weeds, no bugs, no weeding, no digging.

                Took one day to put in, and is there forever continually soil building.

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                • #9
                  White oil will sort the aphids out, or go and pinch a couple of Ladybugs from another plant and put them there and watch them go to town

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                  • #10
                    cool thread. last month i was threatened with a breach notice unless i cleaned up the garden. 30min trip to bunnings and 2 hours in the sun and it looks sweet. Our garden is in full sun so i went with native flowering plants with spare foliage and a good layer of mulch. looks like a desert diorama haha!

                    I did also pick up an "inferno" chilli plant, some common mint and a lime tree. The mint is getting ravaged by caterpillars but grows quickly. the chilli is starting to flower but not really grow - do i pull the flowers off?? The lime tree has done fuck all... maybe i planted it wrong. it's in a large pot in the sun and gets watered daily plus i added some citrus fertiliser. i heard they take ages to fruit.

                    wouldn't mind some basil but after struggling with the mint i think it might be too delicate. the mint only gets part sun and i try to keep the area dewy but those damn caterpillars!!!

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                    • #11
                      I'm guessing chilli plants are like coriander - the flowers need to be plucked to promote growth?

                      My garden bed only gets midday sunlight (it's at the north of the house) but I don't know how much it will get during Summer. I'll get some pics up over the weekend.
                      Originally posted by vk6hgr
                      My Hyosung couldn't do that speed if it was dropped in from orbit.

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                      • #12
                        Daise, if you are after mulch, pea straw, soils, manures etc, and you are not too far away, give me a yell and i can give you a good price.
                        It is what we sell.

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                        • #13
                          I really want to dig everything up ans start from scratch with a good soil, and sink the retic. Maybe throw in a trellis and get some passionfruit going.

                          Here's the weed bed facing West:


                          Facing East


                          One of six chilli plants, desperately clinging to life


                          Coriander. I remove the flowers and even after a huge cull, it's still thriving (somehow)
                          Originally posted by vk6hgr
                          My Hyosung couldn't do that speed if it was dropped in from orbit.

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                          • #14
                            I don't think chilli plants need their flowers removed but if you remove the ripe chilli's they'll keep on producing
                            Wes

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                            • #15
                              LOW MAINTENANCE 'ERBS:

                              Start with a Basil, Coriander & Mint.

                              Dig about 20cms down, fill it with poop, blood&bone, some fertiliser and the flies that you will have to deal with doing this late in the afternoon.
                              Bit of water.
                              Plant the plants (and beat the shit out of the soil to get the air in).
                              Bit of mulch.

                              Bit of watering every second day for a week until they get established.

                              All the other ones are guesswork depending on where you put them, but the three above will make you feel less useless at gardening.

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