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  • #31
    Welcome to hang out once we finally get a bit of dirt mate!
    Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.

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    • #32
      Being Friday and all:

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ReCon View Post
        ^^^^
        Yep, tank water is a given on just about anything we look at.

        Am very open to any sort of advice...
        1 square metre of roof and one millimetre of rain will produce one litre of tank fill, learn your local rainfall and crunch the numbers. This way an enlarged awning/verandah/roof area becomes more pragmatic...
        The only thing wrong with a perfect ride to work is that you end up at work.
        G T

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        • #34
          ^^ Yet more 24k Gold info! Cheers.
          Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.

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          • #35
            How are your chainsaw skills?
            The only thing wrong with a perfect ride to work is that you end up at work.
            G T

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Green Trident View Post
              1 square metre of roof and one millimetre of rain will produce one litre of tank fill, learn your local rainfall and crunch the numbers. This way an enlarged awning/verandah/roof area becomes more pragmatic...
              Actually I should note that this is hearsay, it did come from someone who I don't doubt but I haven't actually proved it.
              So if there's someone out there with a rain gauge and all the necessary, including the curiosity I would be interested to know if it's true.
              The only thing wrong with a perfect ride to work is that you end up at work.
              G T

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              • #37
                It holds up. 1mm rain on 1m2 roof = 1 litre catchment.
                BTW: concrete tank means you can bury or partially bury vs poly which will have to be above ground.
                Consider filtration, pumping and plumbing.
                Consider also that your local bylaws may require fire fighting threshold of your tanks (i.e. 15k litre reserve).

                I bought a 'low density residential' block on the north west coast of Tasmania last year... doing all the required research now so i can get planning approvals in next year, building permits in 2019.
                End Game: I get a sea change, a tree change, a climate change (bye bye +40c summer peaks) and endless low traffic twisties.

                S.
                Chuck Norris is 1/8th Cherokee. This has nothing to do with ancestry, the man ate a fucking Indian.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Green Trident View Post
                  How are your chainsaw skills?
                  Have taken 13 trees from our block and cleared 2 other resi homesites for friends. Am 'sufficiently ' skilled as have needed to drop over fences and down fence lines. Used harness as well.

                  Wish I was born pretty instead though. Chainsaw skills are not something useful for my vintage in the big scheme of things... 🤔
                  Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.

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                  • #39
                    A few things:
                    - Think solar passive design - lots of north facing windows to heat up your slab (don't put carpet over it!) with winter sun, no windows on the east or west, south windows with through breeze in summer to make up the required window area. The house should be approx a rectangle, with a much larger east-west dimension than north-south dimension. Once that slab is warmed up during a sunny day it will stay warm for days, yielding up a comfortable level of heat (ie not too much, which you get with a fire - either too much and then not enough... thermal mass is in the slab).
                    - You don't really need much power. Just like everyone else all you need is to run some fridges, electronics and appliances. Hot water can come via gas or, if you want to get tricky, dump excess daytime solar power into a storage unit (I'm not a fan of heat pumps in cold locations). Solar panels keep the sun off your roof in summer.
                    - If you want 3 phase power to run that welder / body shop then just buy a Honda generator for that - how often are you actually going to be welding etc after all? With the philosophy of keeping the high power short duration loads for the genny, you can get a decent off-grid system for the same cost as a cable run-in and the money you save on power bills from there will more than pay for a bit of generator servicing...
                    - Good luck with it all. My wife won't let me...

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                    • #40
                      }^^^ Again, just invaluable information and duly noted!

                      Shed plan is/was rectangular and aspect would have been ok. The warming of the slab in Winter sun and the window allowance for zoning info is 👍

                      We are still learning this passive solar thing , especially with high drain battery efficiency atm. Having a genny for 3phase is gold though. Mobility and price.

                      Will cost power v solar once we find the right block. ( PSH per day, ect.)

                      Hopefully we can resurrect the PSB gatherings again for a those of us that were either too ill at the time, or were not members at that time, once we are moved and stable.

                      Just hope it doesn't take so long that I will need to make allowances for walking frame access... 😛
                      Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.

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                      • #41
                        I'm more for buying an existing property with an established house [however humble] with power/water/phone etc, then build the shed.
                        We built then lived in a largish shed while trying to establish the flower business, and built the house later. Looking back it wasn't fun. Seemed romantic but the reality was far different. Cold in winter, hot in summer, really crap for any socializing [ visitors and outside dunnys.... ] Getting power is EXPENSIVE to do, and living off-grid is do-able/admirable, until you try to sell it

                        It's far easier/cheaper to tidy up an older small home to make it comfortable/welcoming, than splurge on a shed only to repeat it again if/when you build the house.
                        My view is keep the house small/simple and to spend to make your dream shed/garage/party venue. Big sheds aren't cheap either......

                        Try and find the property where someone has already given it a crack and given up [treechangers or hobby farm] , or an older "just out of town" listing down south somewhere with the basics already there, you will save a shit ton of money/grief in the long run. Real estate pretty flat at the moment, now is the time to buy.

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                        • #42
                          Will be interested to know the detailing to achieve the thermal and acoustic aspects of a build like this.

                          I'd imagine you'd have a weatherproof membrane (such as one by Hardie) all around the perimeter, along with suitable insulation to meet BCA/efficiency criteria and a gyprock internal lining? No fire requirements for the walls for something like this?
                          '13 YZF-R1 // '00 RZ Supra // '72 XA Fairmont Sedan (Resto Project)

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                          • #43
                            Nice idea Recon. My family and I are going to do the same however just a bit more acres for a business we are planning. I come from a farming background and my folks have about 40acres in Denmark.

                            Something to consider is containing your vegetation. In Denmark now as part of the council bushfire plan all paddock grasses must be less than 100mm tall. Yep no joke. So that either means buying livestock and the associated costs or having a tractor and slasher or at least a big ride-on mower and you may have to have all three depending on the block type and usage.

                            Plus side of livestock is you can sell them (sheep are doing really well @ the moment) or you get a steady source of your own meat (however will need your own coolroom or know someone who does). Firebreaks also need doing yearly or more. Not expensive to hire a contractor but again added costs.

                            Not sure if this is the case in other councils.
                            Ninety nine percent of the people in this world are fools. The rest of us are in great danger of contagion.

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                            • #44
                              Tip on fire breaks if you're on acreage.

                              Approach the local volunteer Fire brigade. Back in the day ours used to plough up the firebreak in return for a little training room on a paddock. They would teach the guys correct size/location of the firebreak and do a few little burns and put them out with the various units to practice pump skills.

                              Win all round.

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                              • #45
                                i sell tools for a living and i live in gero so i deal with alot of people living far inland and of grid. my advise is only buy honda generators and make sure u service them. lock your bikes and guns up as up here its become a high target as people get careless and leave keys in quads and such.

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