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  • #16
    Originally posted by sixofthebest View Post
    Highly subsidised - Doctors, Dentists, Engineers, Scientists, etc etc - people who have a prospect of innovating and giving back to society
    Some doctors are morons though how many times do we read of misdiagnoses, theres not many people left that actively give back to society just chasing the coin. I went to see a specialist it was $250 for 5mins nobody is worth 3K per hour.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Halo_2 View Post
      Some doctors are morons though how many times do we read of misdiagnoses, theres not many people left that actively give back to society just chasing the coin. I went to see a specialist it was $250 for 5mins nobody is worth 3K per hour.
      It takes years and years of hard work to be selected to become a medical specialist. If I gave away most of my 20s and half of my 30s to studying, I'd want to be able to charge a lot of money too. GAMSAT and UMAT are designed to prevent most of the money-hungry people getting through, and judging by the med students I've worked with at uni it seems to be working
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      • #18
        Originally posted by datsikk View Post
        so let me get this right. 5 lessons at say 1 hour duration = 5 hours a week. 2 hours planning x 5 = 10 hours.

        10 hours planning + 5 hours teaching = 15 hours work a week....and only 70K a year?

        Wheres ACA when you need them!

        ...
        I think it's pretty obvious he meant that a full time load is 5 classes per DAY not week...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by datsikk View Post
          so let me get this right. 5 lessons at say 1 hour duration = 5 hours a week. 2 hours planning x 5 = 10 hours.

          10 hours planning + 5 hours teaching = 15 hours work a week....and only 70K a year?

          Wheres ACA when you need them!
          Classes =/= lessons.

          Year 7 Science would be a class, you would teach them for 4 lessons per week.

          So 5 classes/wk giving you 20 teaching hours. Plus 1-2 hours planning per lesson is another 20-40 hours per week.

          Thats what you do for 70k. Plus the extra hours spent at school every day doing other work, attending meetings, curriculum planning, marking etc.

          Originally posted by Tim the PM View Post
          I think it's pretty obvious he meant that a full time load is 5 classes per DAY not week...
          As above...we use class as a reference to the group you are teaching, not the same as lesson. So I might have two year 7 science classes, two year 8 science classes, and a year 11 science class. All with 4 lessons per week.


          Originally posted by Halo_2 View Post
          Some doctors are morons though how many times do we read of misdiagnoses, theres not many people left that actively give back to society just chasing the coin. I went to see a specialist it was $250 for 5mins nobody is worth 3K per hour.
          Probably less than the number of times a mechanic has 'misdiagnosed' the issue with a vehicle and charged me for it.

          As a percentage I would imagine that misdiagnoses are quite a small, if not minute, percentage of all diagnoses.
          I was just raising hell I wasn't doing no harm, the cops could not appreciate my natural charm.

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          • #20
            Most mechanics are glorified parts changer though and what does the ecu say is wrong
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            • #21
              Originally posted by 02keilj View Post
              As a percentage I would imagine that misdiagnoses are quite a small, if not minute, percentage of all diagnoses.
              Unless you are in Qld, misdiagnosis seems to be an art form
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              • #22
                Originally posted by 02keilj View Post
                Minor point. Im just finishing up my Graduate Diploma to become a High School teacher. Starting salary would be just under 70k. The problem is that is for a full time load teaching position of 5 classes per week. Many jobs vacancies are for 0.6, 0.8 and some as low as 0.4 full time equivalent so you can only expect to get a percentage of the full time salary. This wouldn't be a terrible issue if you were able to get extra work, but the fact that teaching hours will be spread across each day of the week makes it difficult to commit to anything extra. Not only that, but as a graduate we have to build up our portfolio of lessons and can expect to do 1-2 hours planning for every hour of teaching.
                Just noticed this... generally if you're employed 0.4-0.8 you get priority to pick up ALL the relief lessons the school requires. I.e. if a teacher is sick on the day you're in for 0.4, you'll likely end up with 2 or 3 of their relief lessons. You end up 'planning' for your 0.4 load, yet you get paid to supervise kids for the other 0.6. Doesn't happen every day, but you'll get a decent amount. I'm also surprised to hear the starting salary is now just under $70k.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Duffman View Post
                  If the aim is to create a 'smarter' and sustainable country that thrives through innovation, then all degrees should be free (except law).
                  Students should only pay for failed units at a (fairly high) fixed rate.
                  The only person that seems to be actually innovating whilst providing a sustainable environment is Elon Musk
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Halo_2 View Post
                    The only person that seems to be actually innovating whilst providing a sustainable environment is Elon Musk
                    You're aware of the amount if pollution it takes to create lithium batteries?
                    In sterquiliniis invenitur.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Crobbo View Post
                      You're aware of the amount if pollution it takes to create lithium batteries?
                      That's currently but can change/evolve, were as the oil industry indirectly and directly is FAR worse.
                      Last edited by Halo_2; 22-07-2017, 05:10 PM.
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