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  • #16
    Resumes are not so important in small business ,More jobs are never advertised but are given to people who walk in and ask and present well in person , Best advise I can give is work out were you want to work research the company the smaller the better and go knock on some doors

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    • #17
      I was recently chatting with an employment consultant and he was saying when they advertise for a business or commercial or economica analyst they will typically get 300-400 applicants and he showed me his email inbox and another 3 applications arrived as I watched.

      He sorts them automatically as the vast majority of those were coming from India

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      • #18
        Yeah, we pay an employment consultant to sort through the frass. The consultant then rates applicants as ABCD against demonstration of the half a dozen or so criteria. We then get about six in for interview. The consultant costs about $5k which I reckon is money well-spent. They also deal with the loons who ring up to complain they were discriminated against because they ride a Kawasaki.
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        • #19
          Have a summary detailing how you nail the criteria in the top third of the CV and you have a good shot of making a short list. No-one is going to read down through your history or references.
          Ryan

          Originally posted by Aufitt
          Try Para045, he definitely sounds all gooey in the fork for ya

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          • #20
            Originally posted by agrid View Post
            A well-written resume can be used for many jobs, just use a different cover letter each time.

            Propper speling and grammer are esential.
            I disagree with this. Yes a well written resume will go a long way, but every resume should be tailored for the job you are applying for. as should a cover letter.
            Like said above, you have 6-18sec to wow the reader so make it count! put the most important stuff first (related to job criteria), or something that stands out for the job/company.

            if you have their attention after 6 seconds, they may be tempted to either put it in the maybe pile, or continue reading. If you somehow get them to read the whole thing, then you are doing well. follow up with all the bullshit on how good you are at doing this/that/the other. just remember, too much will get them bored, too little will make them question your skills.

            if you somehow make it this far (top 20?), then they might actually look at your coverletter. sure, a lot of people dont bother with them, but why lose the opportunity to that one HR person that might actually use them as a last deciding factor...again with these, dont make them so short that you sell yourself short, but dont make them so long as to bore the reader...

            coming from 2.5 of the worst years to try and find a specific role, and countless rejections, let alone empty inboxes (they get so many applications these days they dont even bother to let you know you were rejected). I have leaned what works and what doesn't in my field.

            My 2c. start with a base resume with everything in it, then research research research! look at the job add, take out the irrelevant bullshit, reread the ad, and look between the lines, then add or delete further bullshit. then do the most important thing, give them a call, speak to the employer/HR person you are dealing with. find out what they truely want. Do they want a yes man, do they want a thinker/out-of-the-box man, what is the HR/employer chasing specifically?(tailor resume again). get your name across, that way they will be expecting your resume!...your 6 sec just jumped to 18!

            good luck! took me 2 years and over 600 applications to work this out. my list of resumes is over 100, just ask Josie.
            Last edited by Pinkee; 21-06-2017, 10:25 AM.
            Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed
            So it seems there IS a command file code in windows/microsoft updater that pings small lines of to-fro data.. like a cookie to allow/refresh 'critical updates'
            It also serves as a portal for clever code writers to embed 'dormant till pinged'.....ransomware...I love tech....amidointhisrite..?


            Fess up who hacked GSX's account? This post was perfectly readable in every way

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            • #21
              LinkedIn is where it's at, fix your LinkedIn, if you don't have one time to start one.
              Best I can do to describe the issue is this.
              Normally it goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, shift, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

              But now it's a bit more like this
              BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-R-R-r-r-r-r-r-, shift

              exan

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              • #22
                I was recently made redundant and the re-employment consultant I used said you should keep your resume the same - its a fact sheet.

                The cover letter is adapted to address the specifics the employer is looking for, it supplements the facts in your resume.

                There are no hard and fast rules here, and each person will approach differently, and each employer will look at them differently.

                I've had 4 different job offers in the last 12 months, so my approach seems to be working well with the employers I'm looking at

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                • #23
                  I guess if anything this thread confirms what I already believed; Every HR person is different, but they will all tell you "this is the way it should be done"...

                  Some things are consistent though, grabbing their attention immediately is critical.

                  I'm getting mine done by a pro (again they all have different ideas about what is correct!) and adjusting what they give me with ideas from several good ones that people have sent me.

                  Thanks for the input!

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                  • #24
                    I speak as someone who wades through the applications with the help of a recruitment consultant. When it comes to government jobs they are psychotic about arse-covering and making sure that everyone is treated the same. If you effectively demonstrate that you meet the criteria in the application they have to get you in for an interview. How strongly you interview is what provides some wriggle room but they make sure to ask everyone the same questions and give the same time to answer. If you are found "suitable not preferred" you can remain on an active list in case other similar jobs come up. This way the government can save money by not advertising and interviewing because they know they have someone suitable in the files. The interview panels I've sat on work pretty hard to help people give it their best shot, especially if they appear nervous.
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                    • #25
                      I have always written my own Tim.
                      I'll do it for a small fee.
                      Unemployment for the last 6 years is killing me.

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                      • #26
                        Im getting my resume done up, might aswell put your best foot forward.

                        Originally posted by Speed Dealer View Post

                        Thats mining boom $$$ people are doing them for as little as $95, mine is costing more but not that level.
                        "Some people are like clouds. When they disappear it's a beautiful day"

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                        • #27
                          'Give me the job cunt'...short and to the point!
                          Smoke me a kipper...I'll be home in time for breakfast

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dubs View Post
                            yes but theres a difference between satisfying the criteria and authoring a response.
                            I satisfy all the criterion for roles but struggle with the written application
                            I recommend 'Write a winning job application: a guide to responding to selection criteria, by Lloyd White'. A good resource, but use it to build your own response. Amazed how many people plagerize verbatim. The key is behavioural examples.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tim the PM View Post
                              I guess if anything this thread confirms what I already believed; Every HR person is different, but they will all tell you "this is the way it should be done"...

                              Some things are consistent though, grabbing their attention immediately is critical.

                              I'm getting mine done by a pro (again they all have different ideas about what is correct!) and adjusting what they give me with ideas from several good ones that people have sent me.

                              Thanks for the input!
                              Hi Tim,
                              I don't think that there is one answer. Different sectors, industries, panel members and jobs have different requirements.
                              From my perspective as an employer, I look for different things in a CV for call centre staff (duties based) to a technician (tech and quals based) to a project manager (outcome/achievement based).
                              My recommendation would be to target your CV to the job that you are applying for. Ring the contact person, to make sure the job is what you thought. Use the conversation with the contact person to understand your audience. Someone calls me about a call centre position, I talk about the duties (ie types of calls/customers). Someone calls me about a Project Manager, I talk about the outcomes (responsible for managing X project resources to successfully deliver Y and Z).
                              Having said that this gets a bit lost when employers use a comsultant as the contact point who has generic answers on the process.
                              Usually get 30 to 200 applicants for every job. Gotta filter that down to a managable number of interviews. Usually only get a handfull of phone enquiries.
                              Just another opinion/ perspective to add to your collection.


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