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  • 10 laws that suggest Australia is a nanny state

    Gobsmacked by a few of these...

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/10...021525185.html

    Lockout laws
    Sydney’s lockout law – introduced in response to the increasing level of drunk violence in the King’s Cross district in particular – states that establishments can’t allow entry after 1.30am and can’t serve alcohol after 3am in parts of Sydney’s CBD and the King’s Cross district. Implementation of the restrictive new rules have resulted in the closure of several iconic nightclubs across the city. Those which have been able to survive in the declining industry and still remain in business have reported huge falls in revenue and profitability.
    More recently, Queensland has announced it has secured support for its own restrictive lockout law which will introduce 2am ‘last drinks’ across much of the state by July this year and 1am lockouts in 2017, as well as restrictions on drinks like shots and doubles. However, Victoria continues to resist and attempt for a Melbourne lockout after the failed trial of a 2am lockout policy in 2008. A the time, reports saw that it actually led to in an increase in violence in the area, and could negatively impact the city’s vibrant night economy which is worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Buying alcohol after 10pm
    Alongside Sydney’s lockout laws, a state-wide ban on takeaway alcohol sales after 10pm was introduced. This has also received significant negative feedback.

    Cycling laws
    Australia’s newest piece of criminal legislation is among the toughest in the world. Riders in Sydney and the rest of New South Wales state will soon be subject to a package of new laws aimed at cutting deaths and the more than 1,000 serious injuries a year among cyclists. The penalty for cycling without a helmet more than quadruples to $319, stiffer than many speeding fines for drivers, and riders jumping a red light will get a $425 fine. Adult riders will have to carry identification, or face a $106 penalty from March 2017.

    Plain packaging law
    Cigarette plain packaging laws were introduced by the former Gillard Government in a bid to reduce smoking rates across the state. However, some claim that the removal of branding has instead only led to an increase in consumption of cheaper or illegally imported cigarettes.

    Advertising bans
    A raft of advertising regulations heavily restrict marketing which relates to children, unhealthy food, alcohol, financial products among other things. This extends from TV adverts to billboards and even radio.

    Picnic permits
    Some suburbs have begun requiring groups to register and pay for a permit to spend the afternoon in public parks – these permits are then checked by patrolling council officers. For example, in Port Phillip, park visitors with parties larger than 20 people need an $82 permit which buys them only two hours. Each additional hours cost and extra $41. Sydney’s Waverly council has even adopted an events policy that requires a permit any event on its Bondi, Bronte or Tamarama beaches publicised on social media, regardless of the number of guests, or face a $220 fine.

    Website age gates
    As part of the regulations around marketing to children, alcohol brands’ websites are required to have an age gate to check if the user is over 18. Given there is no way to verify the user is actually over 18, the requirement is virtually pointless.

    Smoking bans

    A ban on smoking in all indoor dining areas was introduced in South Australia in January 1999 and as of 6 December 2004, smoking was banned in all enclosed public places, workplaces and shared areas under amendments to the Tobacco Products Regulation Act 1997. Queensland has recently passed further laws to restrict smokers from lighting up not only in enclosed public spaces but also in outdoor public places near childcare facilities, bus stops, taxi ranks, public pools, children’s sporting venues, skate parts and outdoor malls. The new laws also ban the sale of tobacco products from pop-up retail outlets, such as at music festivals.

    Footpath dining restrictions
    Councils are steadily increasing restrictions on any café, restaurant or store which has an area outside on a public footpath with a footpath dining permit now required in order to use the area for customers to eat and drink. The rules, thought to regulate outdoor dining to ensure the safety of diners and pedestrians, not only restricts where visitors can eat but also when.

    BBQ license

    It’s not just public places which carry restrictive rules, tenants who create too much smoke when barbecuing on unit balconies could soon face fines of up to $2200 under proposed changes to strata laws.

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    You missed double demerits.
    Its all good on Ducati's

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    • #3
      We're not a nanny state. Place is just full of idiots and the laws cater for the lowest denominator.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Diesal View Post
        Gobsmacked by a few of these...

        Picnic permits
        Some suburbs have begun requiring groups to register and pay for a permit to spend the afternoon in public parks – these permits are then checked by patrolling council officers. For example, in Port Phillip, park visitors with parties larger than 20 people need an $82 permit which buys them only two hours. Each additional hours cost and extra $41. Sydney’s Waverly council has even adopted an events policy that requires a permit any event on its Bondi, Bronte or Tamarama beaches publicised on social media, regardless of the number of guests, or face a $220 fine.
        Having seen the state that some gatherings leave the picnic grounds I'm not surprised councils want people to foot the bill

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        • #5
          Unless humans stop being muppets, this is only the beginning of the end.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by boeman View Post
            We're not a nanny state. Place is just full of idiots and the laws cater for the lowest denominator.
            Quoted for truth !!

            We get these laws because for the most part, people are too fucking stupid to do "the right thing".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Diesal View Post
              Lockout laws
              Sydney’s lockout law – introduced in response to the increasing level of drunk violence in the King’s Cross district in particular – states that establishments can’t allow entry after 1.30am and can’t serve alcohol after 3am in parts of Sydney’s CBD and the King’s Cross district. Implementation of the restrictive new rules have resulted in the closure of several iconic nightclubs across the city. Those which have been able to survive in the declining industry and still remain in business have reported huge falls in revenue and profitability.
              More recently, Queensland has announced it has secured support for its own restrictive lockout law which will introduce 2am ‘last drinks’ across much of the state by July this year and 1am lockouts in 2017, as well as restrictions on drinks like shots and doubles. However, Victoria continues to resist and attempt for a Melbourne lockout after the failed trial of a 2am lockout policy in 2008. A the time, reports saw that it actually led to in an increase in violence in the area, and could negatively impact the city’s vibrant night economy which is worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

              I can see the intent behind the law and agree to a point, trouble is it's become too haphazard in the way it's been done, one side of a street you are OK to serve alcohol the other not just depending on a virtual line in the sand Doesn't really make sense in that regard, it's like saying you have a bar in Northbridge and must stop at 130 but you can go to West Perth and piss on all night

              Buying alcohol after 10pm
              Alongside Sydney’s lockout laws, a state-wide ban on takeaway alcohol sales after 10pm was introduced. This has also received significant negative feedback.

              This one is even more stupid as it doesn't cater for the ever increasing numbers of people that work odd hours or are having a dinner party and run out of wine and want to nip down the shop for a bottle

              Cycling laws
              Australia’s newest piece of criminal legislation is among the toughest in the world. Riders in Sydney and the rest of New South Wales state will soon be subject to a package of new laws aimed at cutting deaths and the more than 1,000 serious injuries a year among cyclists. The penalty for cycling without a helmet more than quadruples to $319, stiffer than many speeding fines for drivers, and riders jumping a red light will get a $425 fine. Adult riders will have to carry identification, or face a $106 penalty from March 2017.

              This one I whole heartedly agree with, about time cyclists are treated the same as all other road users, car drivers have to wear seat belts, MC/scooter riders have to wear helmets and seeing as bicycles will do over the minimum speed limit why should they be exempt, especially when it's them that are the ones it will save from injury
              Same with the red lights and ID, all other road users have to abide by it (in NSW as far as ID anyway not WA) so why not bicycles? Again the red lights are for their safety, no skin off my nose if one rides in front of my car apart from how they'll pay for the damage


              Plain packaging law
              Cigarette plain packaging laws were introduced by the former Gillard Government in a bid to reduce smoking rates across the state. However, some claim that the removal of branding has instead only led to an increase in consumption of cheaper or illegally imported cigarettes.

              Yeah as much as I hate ciggies and wish they'd just ban them (which they wont for revenue reasons), the plain packaging is just a joke, I can't remember anyone I knew when younger saying I buy Winnie Blues because the package is prettier or whatever As far as the cheaper ciggies well the tobacco companies told them when the law was proposed that they'd likely just bring in cheaper cigarettes in plain packs

              Advertising bans
              A raft of advertising regulations heavily restrict marketing which relates to children, unhealthy food, alcohol, financial products among other things. This extends from TV adverts to billboards and even radio.

              This is one that IMO hasn't gone far enough, there are no real laws as such just "standards" that the advertisers police themselves so fuck all is really achieved
              They still advertise unhealthy foods and other things when kids are watching TV and get around it by putting a piss weak disclaimer in small print at the bottom of the ads

              The worst one at the moment IMO is fucking gambling ads that are everywhere and at all times of the day and night Again they think they are addressing the problem by a small almost unreadable disclaimer at the end about "gambling responsibly"

              My 13 yr old has been constantly educated about the way companies advertise stuff and we've never used the TV as a babysitter but even he can recite 1/2 the ads on the TV verbatim ie McDonalds/Nutribullet/Robot Roomba etc



              Picnic permits
              Some suburbs have begun requiring groups to register and pay for a permit to spend the afternoon in public parks – these permits are then checked by patrolling council officers. For example, in Port Phillip, park visitors with parties larger than 20 people need an $82 permit which buys them only two hours. Each additional hours cost and extra $41. Sydney’s Waverly council has even adopted an events policy that requires a permit any event on its Bondi, Bronte or Tamarama beaches publicised on social media, regardless of the number of guests, or face a $220 fine.

              Again probably not implemented the best but understandable given the number of companies/organisations use these public amenities without contributing a cent
              There are all sorts of groups now from Aerobics instructors to multinationals companies that use public parks etc to promote or run their businesses from or have events at and never pay anything and the local ratepayer picks up the bill for emptying bins and picking up the excess when they overflow, repairing damage to lawns and equipment
              Most local sporting clubs already pay to use these facilities but then you get people with businesses taking the piss and using them to make money for no fee



              Website age gates
              As part of the regulations around marketing to children, alcohol brands’ websites are required to have an age gate to check if the user is over 18. Given there is no way to verify the user is actually over 18, the requirement is virtually pointless.

              +1 These have been a joke ever since they were introduced much like a lot of porn sites used to have useless access restrictions before the laws were tightened

              Smoking bans
              A ban on smoking in all indoor dining areas was introduced in South Australia in January 1999 and as of 6 December 2004, smoking was banned in all enclosed public places, workplaces and shared areas under amendments to the Tobacco Products Regulation Act 1997. Queensland has recently passed further laws to restrict smokers from lighting up not only in enclosed public spaces but also in outdoor public places near childcare facilities, bus stops, taxi ranks, public pools, children’s sporting venues, skate parts and outdoor malls. The new laws also ban the sale of tobacco products from pop-up retail outlets, such as at music festivals.

              This is a great law given how bad smoking is for your health and I wish they would grow some balls and actually spend some money on enforcement because at the moment they are pretty much a waste of time as no one enforces it Case in point, went to the Titanic exhibition yesterday and no one is allowed to smoke indoors AND I believe within 5m of doorways but all the filthy cunts smoking were standing just outside the doorways polluting the air for quite a large area because the building is pretty much surrounded and the smoke doesn't blow away
              Smoking is supposed to be banned in all Govt buildings here in WA yet they still allow smoking in the gaols and other places



              Footpath dining restrictions
              Councils are steadily increasing restrictions on any café, restaurant or store which has an area outside on a public footpath with a footpath dining permit now required in order to use the area for customers to eat and drink. The rules, thought to regulate outdoor dining to ensure the safety of diners and pedestrians, not only restricts where visitors can eat but also when.

              Again this isn't such a bad thing particularly here in WA where you have to squeeze around tables etc on narrow footpaths! Again CiP I went to a WAFL game last year at Leederville oval with missus and kid, thought yeah we'll take the train in and walk. Well fuck me I was amazed at the number of fucking tables and chairs scattered around on the footpaths I reckon on the maybe 10 minute walk from train to oval we had to walk a 1/3 on the road because there either wasn't the room to get around tables and chairs, inconsiderate cunts who decide to stop and talk to people in the chairs blocking what was left of the footpath or the other arseholes that decided they need to puff away and pollute the footpaths with cigarette smoke

              BBQ license
              It’s not just public places which carry restrictive rules, tenants who create too much smoke when barbecuing on unit balconies could soon face fines of up to $2200 under proposed changes to strata laws.
              Again seems like an overreaction but I'd guess it comes due to some inconsiderate fuck that figures it's OK to create clouds of smoke on their balcony which goes up to the next floor and annoys them
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              Noted. We'll check back on that one in three years
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