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  • Western Power with lights and sirens...WTF ?

    Today i saw it again, a Western Power service vehicle with lights and sirens running a red light.

    I've seen this before and am wondering why WP can run lights just like they are ambo's or coppers.

    I always assumed it was to go and fix power at a childrens hospital where little johnny is halfway through a vital lifesaving appendix operation or something.

    Does anyone know what it's all about ?
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  • #2
    Not for hospitals as they have their own emergency power systems.

    It came about as a result of a few situations where people died as a result of loss of power to their homes. People who relied on ventelators and other such things IIRC. They have to obey the same rules as other emergency services running to priority 2 situations AFAIK.
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    • #3
      I thought it was more to do where live powerlines were down and dangerous.

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Yeah it's mainly for the line guys who cut and restore power in emergency situations. We get them out with the bush fire brigade for fallen lines and to cut power to areas we're working in. Out of interest the vehicles are also fitted (or very soon to be fitted) with cameras after a few "incidents" involving the Western Power guys misusing the new toys.

          Same rules apply as per all emergency vehicles, Liability in crashes at intersections, cant blast through train lines when they are flashing, can't speed through school zones, road works or shopping centres. Oh and thanks to the new hoon laws, can't exceed 45k's over the posted speed limit.
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          • #6
            Didn't you know it's a new rule, anyone can do it if your in a rush. Just toot your horn, flash your lights and it's all good.
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            • #7
              So they can get to those pole top fires quicker too!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Turfie View Post
                Yeah it's mainly for the line guys who cut and restore power in emergency situations. We get them out with the bush fire brigade for fallen lines and to cut power to areas we're working in. Out of interest the vehicles are also fitted (or very soon to be fitted) with cameras after a few "incidents" involving the Western Power guys misusing the new toys.

                Yep that's it. Life threatening situations, line's down, car hits streetlight/powerpole, exposed pillar etc..

                Most of them have the camera's now, covering speedo, left and right through the front wind screen, straight ahead (duh) and behind. But if they forget to load the DVD? oh well.. next time

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                • #9
                  But like cops they're still allowed to use them when there's a fresh batch of donuts being dished up, right?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by barfridge View Post
                    But like cops they're still allowed to use them when there's a fresh batch of donuts being dished up, right?
                    so... should this be used to entice Krispy Kreme to Perth, or is it why they are not interested... sorry guy's - back on topic
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                    • #11
                      Sort of on the topic: Did anyone notice on an episode of the force when they did a quick sort of sweeping shot of the trg office they failed to edit out the magnetic westernpower old logo sign's and a KB electrics sign.

                      So if either of those have been outside your house for a while be afraid...

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                      • #12
                        From my knowledge it's so emergency crews can attend to people in situation where downed lines or damaged poles make it unsafe to attend to those involved.

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                        • #13
                          quote of turfie :Same rules apply as per all emergency vehicles, Liability in crashes at intersections


                          ROAD TRAFFIC CODE 2000 - REG 60

                          Keeping clear of police and emergency vehicles
                          60 . Keeping clear of police and emergency vehicles
                          (1) A driver shall give way to, and make every reasonable effort to give a clear and uninterrupted passage to, every police or emergency vehicle that is displaying a flashing blue or red light (whether or not it is also displaying other lights) or sounding an alarm.
                          Points: 4 Modified penalty: 3 PU
                          (2) This regulation applies to a driver despite any other regulation that would otherwise require the driver of a police or emergency vehicle to give way to the driver.
                          This means that liablity will rest with you even if they run a red light and take you out.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by evo9ace View Post
                            ROAD TRAFFIC CODE 2000 - REG 60
                            The code stated applies mainly to moving vehicles or circumstances where the vehicle can "make every reasonable effort to give way". The traffic codes puts an onus is on the operator of the emergency vehicle to proceed with caution in regards to operating under emergency conditions.

                            As below "Reasonable Care" is a very loose term and it is up to the operator of the emergency vehicle to prove in an accident that they were not the cause of the accident.

                            281 . Exemption for drivers of emergency vehicles (other)

                            A provision of these regulations does not apply to the driver of an emergency vehicle that is not being used for official duties by a police officer if —
                            (a) in the circumstances —
                            (i) the driver is taking reasonable care; and
                            (ii) it is reasonable that the provision should not apply;
                            and (b) the vehicle is a motor vehicle that is moving and the vehicle is displaying a blue or red flashing light or sounding an alarm.
                            Say on a multi lane intersection in a 100 zone, an emergency vehicle is turning right across the flow of traffic and there is a cue in the turning lane on the opposite side of the road that obscures the vision of the oncoming traffic and the emergency vehicle. If the emergency vehicle makes the turn and gets t-boned by an oncoming car it could be deemed that the emergency vehicle did not display reasonable care in the manoeuvre. Same goes if an emergency vehicle runs a red light crossing the flow of traffic, there is an expectation that a vehicle moving at speed is not going to safely be able to stop in time to give way. (And no bugger seems to hear or pay attention a siren 50% of the time)

                            Also if an emergency vehicle pulls up behind a vehicle at a set of lights and makes a gesture for the vehicle to move out of their way. If the vehicle pulls out and gets hit by another car the operator can be liable as the vehicle involved in the crash was obeying a lawful instruction from the operator to get out of their way.

                            Its a really slippery slope driving lights and sirens as all a lawyer or the Coroner has to prove is that the operator didn't display reasonable care leading to an accident.
                            Last edited by Turfie; 17-10-2007, 05:42 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Turfie View Post

                              Same rules apply as per all emergency vehicles, Liability in crashes at intersections, cant blast through train lines when they are flashing, can't speed through school zones, road works or shopping centres. Oh and thanks to the new hoon laws, can't exceed 45k's over the posted speed limit.

                              Turfie, what makes you say the following???

                              ....can't speed through school zones, road works or shopping centres. Oh and thanks to the new hoon laws, can't exceed 45k's over the posted speed limit.
                              Like please quote the relevant rules/regs etc.

                              Cheers.

                              Many tks.

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