No harm done- just posting this as information for everyone.
My husband is selling his Benelli TnT Cafe Racer and has it advertised on bikesales.com.au. He had an e-mail a few days ago in response to the ad
The bike is advertised for $16,990. This is what the e-mail said:
Curious.... we replied...
The next reply began to raise suspicion...
Somewhat suspicious we did a little research and got back to him with the following...
Further trawling of the internet about bike and paypal scams etc came up with the following thread from on here, back in October 2008:
Looks like its a recycled scam from over a year ago but they've fixed up the gramma and tweaked the story a little. Curiously enough, it seems like it might possibly be a Perth based scam as I didn't uncover any other hits for other states.
My husband is selling his Benelli TnT Cafe Racer and has it advertised on bikesales.com.au. He had an e-mail a few days ago in response to the ad
The bike is advertised for $16,990. This is what the e-mail said:
---- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:11 PM
Subject: Enquiry from BikeSales Australia
The following Used Bike Lead was generated by bikesales.com.au
Date: 09-Aug-2009 17:11:45
Make: BENELLI
Model: TNT 1130 CAFE RACER
Year: 2006
Colour: Gold
Price: 16900.00
PROSPECT DETAILS
Name: Nathan Wilcox
Postcode: 3000
Mobile Phone: 0406445665
Email: [email protected]
TRADE-IN DETAILS:
Comments:
I will like to make an offer of $17,100 for your bike, pls let me know if you accept my offer, payment for the bike will be through paypal and the pick up will be arranged.
Brought to you by bikesales.com.au
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:11 PM
Subject: Enquiry from BikeSales Australia
The following Used Bike Lead was generated by bikesales.com.au
Date: 09-Aug-2009 17:11:45
Make: BENELLI
Model: TNT 1130 CAFE RACER
Year: 2006
Colour: Gold
Price: 16900.00
PROSPECT DETAILS
Name: Nathan Wilcox
Postcode: 3000
Mobile Phone: 0406445665
Email: [email protected]
TRADE-IN DETAILS:
Comments:
I will like to make an offer of $17,100 for your bike, pls let me know if you accept my offer, payment for the bike will be through paypal and the pick up will be arranged.
Brought to you by bikesales.com.au
Used Motorcycle For Sale - Buy and Sell Motorcycles Australia - bikesales.com.au
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This message was generated directly by a user of the Bikesales website.
Bikesales accepts no responsibility for the contents of this message.
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From: Peter Mayer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Enquiry from BikeSales Australia
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:59 AM
Hi Nathan,
Sorry I'm slow in getting back to you - I've been flat out with work and a few other things.
Now, the bike. I'll accept $17,100 paid through PayPal. I can take a few more photos of the bike if you like, but basically it's in excellent condition. I've ridden it around a bit since putting the ad up, and as such it now has about 8,200km on it.
I removed the airbox flaps shortly after I got it, likewise the exup valve in the exhaust. These modifications made it breathe better and it has a much smoother pickup from lower revs. I have also removed the baffle from the muffler - the bike is quite loud, and sounds fantastic as the revs rise.
Let me know what you're thinking. I will be away from the end of next week until the 14th September, so if you're quick I can have it on its way to you by the end of the week.
Regards,
Peter Mayer
0438 758 578
Subject: Re: Enquiry from BikeSales Australia
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:59 AM
Hi Nathan,
Sorry I'm slow in getting back to you - I've been flat out with work and a few other things.
Now, the bike. I'll accept $17,100 paid through PayPal. I can take a few more photos of the bike if you like, but basically it's in excellent condition. I've ridden it around a bit since putting the ad up, and as such it now has about 8,200km on it.
I removed the airbox flaps shortly after I got it, likewise the exup valve in the exhaust. These modifications made it breathe better and it has a much smoother pickup from lower revs. I have also removed the baffle from the muffler - the bike is quite loud, and sounds fantastic as the revs rise.
Let me know what you're thinking. I will be away from the end of next week until the 14th September, so if you're quick I can have it on its way to you by the end of the week.
Regards,
Peter Mayer
0438 758 578
Thanks for accepting my offer,i am buying the bike for dad and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and i really want the bike to be a surprise for dad so i wont let him know anything abt the bike until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be more than happy with the bike.I insisted on paypal because i dont have access to my bank account online as i dont have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address so i can make the payments asap for the bike and pls if you dont have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to Welcome - PayPal and get it set up , after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the bike up after i have made the payments.
Hi Nathan,
I have just been doing some research on the buyer and seller protection services offered through PayPal. I think it's best to proceed only if we both have protection.
In order to ensure that both the buyer and seller are protected, the transaction will have to take place through e-bay. I am happy to list the bike on E-bay at $17,100.
Regarding pick-up and delivery. If you purchase the bike, the bike must be sent to your shipping address as given by you on the transaction details page. This is so that there is a proof of shipment and of the bike being received and signed for.
More information is available 'here'.
Please let me know if you are happy to proceed in this manner.
Peter Mayer
0438 758 578
I have just been doing some research on the buyer and seller protection services offered through PayPal. I think it's best to proceed only if we both have protection.
In order to ensure that both the buyer and seller are protected, the transaction will have to take place through e-bay. I am happy to list the bike on E-bay at $17,100.
Regarding pick-up and delivery. If you purchase the bike, the bike must be sent to your shipping address as given by you on the transaction details page. This is so that there is a proof of shipment and of the bike being received and signed for.
More information is available 'here'.
Please let me know if you are happy to proceed in this manner.
Peter Mayer
0438 758 578
Here is a scam i was sent via email through an add that i have on bikesales.
Not exactly sure how they would succeed in the scam using PAYPAL but i checked with Bikesales and they said not to reply.
Note: Poor spelling and the fact he left his mobile number a digit short.
Does anyone know how they execute this scam and actually succeed because i thought buyers and sellers are protected through Paypal?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 11:27 AM
To: Columbo
Subject: ** SALES OPPORTUNITY from Used Motorcycle For Sale - Buy and Sell Used Motorcycles Australia - bikesales.com.au ** The following Private Bike Enquiry was generated by bikesales.com.au: Enquiry ID: 165934Date: Sat Oct 25 13:27:24 EST 2008
Name: Neill
Address:
Postcode: 2013
Mobile Phone: 042736482
Home Phone:
Work Phone:
Email: [email protected]
Comments: Hello there,I just need to tell you that this isa very lovely bike you have gotten here and I am interested in buying itoutrightly.For a quick sale, I will pay you 10000.00aud for the bike. Iwas planning going on physically to purchase the bike but could not dueto the nature of my work as i am always on the move cos I am marineengineer and I work with an International shipping company.the bike willbe picked up at your location by my pick up agent I will be paying withmy paypal account.so please do reply me asap with your paypal account orsend me a payment request from your paypal account so i can effectpayment to you rightaway.I await your replyNB:Honestly, I do not know the actual worth of this item because I?malways busy sailing. If my offer is not ok, Let me know so i can shootup abit or bring it down as the case maybe.Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
Bike details as displayed on bikesales.com.au: Advert ID: 2300939Bike: 2006 HONDA CBR600RRColour: Dark Blue & REDPrice: 10500
Not exactly sure how they would succeed in the scam using PAYPAL but i checked with Bikesales and they said not to reply.
Note: Poor spelling and the fact he left his mobile number a digit short.
Does anyone know how they execute this scam and actually succeed because i thought buyers and sellers are protected through Paypal?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 11:27 AM
To: Columbo
Subject: ** SALES OPPORTUNITY from Used Motorcycle For Sale - Buy and Sell Used Motorcycles Australia - bikesales.com.au ** The following Private Bike Enquiry was generated by bikesales.com.au: Enquiry ID: 165934Date: Sat Oct 25 13:27:24 EST 2008
Name: Neill
Address:
Postcode: 2013
Mobile Phone: 042736482
Home Phone:
Work Phone:
Email: [email protected]
Comments: Hello there,I just need to tell you that this isa very lovely bike you have gotten here and I am interested in buying itoutrightly.For a quick sale, I will pay you 10000.00aud for the bike. Iwas planning going on physically to purchase the bike but could not dueto the nature of my work as i am always on the move cos I am marineengineer and I work with an International shipping company.the bike willbe picked up at your location by my pick up agent I will be paying withmy paypal account.so please do reply me asap with your paypal account orsend me a payment request from your paypal account so i can effectpayment to you rightaway.I await your replyNB:Honestly, I do not know the actual worth of this item because I?malways busy sailing. If my offer is not ok, Let me know so i can shootup abit or bring it down as the case maybe.Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
Bike details as displayed on bikesales.com.au: Advert ID: 2300939Bike: 2006 HONDA CBR600RRColour: Dark Blue & REDPrice: 10500
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