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**PrestigeCBR** · 08-07-2004, 02:10 PM

Re: Post race day maintenance

This is to all those who actively race:

Do you guys change your oils after each raceday? eg Fork oil, engine oil etc. What consumables do you need to replace after each race day if any?

Just making up a bit of a budget for a full year of racing and I am interested to know.

If you don't want to give exact figures thats cool but some kind of rough indicator would be helpfull

After you have bought the bike:
Raceglass
Exhaust
Filters
Oils
Tyres
Tuning
Fuel
Repair budget as well.......

The list just keeps on going

Well it goes something like this
Raceglass $680.00
Exhaust $700.00
Tyres $420 to $450 depending on brand
Fuel 30 litres
Oggy Knobes $120
Braided brake lines $180
My oil and fluids are free from Shell, and I change them after each race.
Brake pads last me 3 rounds

Each round will be;
1 set of tyres, $420
30 litres fuel, $30
Oils / Fluids, $50 to $70 depending on brand
Entry fee $75
But if you do Supersport / Superstock you can sell your tyres for around $100 to $150 a set, helps keep the cost down.

Once you find a bike then your looking at an extra $2500 - $3000 to make it track ready.

I recommend Superstock as a starting class for racing, only allowed minor bike mod's, keeps the sport cheaper.

Give it ago :idea: Plus my 600rr might be for sale end of season (hint-hint 8) )

**Tex** · 08-07-2004, 03:45 PM

Calvins got it pretty much so right, add in at least $400 to paint your raceglass, plus you'll most likely want to change your chain and sprokets, which is around $300, i'm the same as Calvin and i change my oils after every race meet and my brake fluid every two meets, brake pads i change every 3 meets, Also put into that a power commander which is around $700, then add into that leathers if you don't already have them, add into that a set of tyre warmers which is a must have. And a front and rear stand, plus the spares that you will need, and the're the costs you have if you stay upright,
not the cheapest of sports, but it is more fun than i've ever had !!

**RG78** · 08-07-2004, 07:01 PM

Hi all, this is my first post here and a little insight into what is needed before you start your first season.

First of all i'll start by saying i have now idea what categorys u guys have over there, but over here in qld the most popular classes are supersport and ultralites (400's). My first year start up budget for superstock/supersport which was last year looked something like this.

Raceglass $700
Paint $500
Steering damper $600
Racetech fork internals $500
Racetech Shock internals + spring $400
Slip on pipe $500
Braided lines $140
Brake pads $200
520 chain and sprockets $300
Oil $80 for 4 litres
Front and rear stands $300
Tyre warmers $500
Tyres $450

approx $5k

So basically to have a start up 600cc race bike not a street bike with raceglass thats what your looking at.
If you want to be on a fast bike then double or even triple that figure.

For each race weekend i put away about $700 for entry fees, tyres, petrol, oil, pads, garaging.

**gohan** · 08-07-2004, 07:15 PM

Hi all, this is my first post here and a little insight into what is needed before you start your first season.

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good to see you on the forum ryan.what you said about costs is about as accurate as you can get.add about $200 extra for every race meet for the pro superbike class and about an extra $3000 to set a 1000 bike up to race trim.once your set up then its tyres that hurt the most :roll:

**zipdrive** · 08-07-2004, 07:23 PM

i concur with all of the above.

all you need to do is set aside enough money for food and bills then pour whatever you have left into racing...
you might also want to take out some sort of insurance for your health+income too...just incase.

**PrestigeCBR** · 08-07-2004, 07:49 PM

i concur with all of the above.

all you need to do is set aside enough money for food and bills then pour whatever you have left into racing...
you might also want to take out some sort of insurance for your health+income too...just incase.

Farrk Dave, you make it sound like having a wife :shock:

"looks over sholder for punch in the head"

Welcome to the forum RG78.

**PrestigeCBR** · 08-07-2004, 09:44 PM

Oh while I remember I also keep a log book for parts etc used during the season, that way I keep an eye on costs and how often i change them. At this stage I have spent $7,000 in 7 months :shock:

**#151** · 08-07-2004, 10:51 PM

Budget???

Look up 'racing' in the dictionary and the word 'budget' does not appear anywhere in the description.

Anyone thinking of getting involved in Road Racing, take a serious look at your bank account and decide if you can afford it. Due to working in the industry I am fortunate to either be Sponsored for items, purchase items at cost and don't pay for labour on servicing/repairs. I would hate to think of the costs involved if you had to pay retail.

For example, I have competed in Stars of Tommorrow, Round 1 and 2 of the State Rounds and half of Round Four of the National Rounds. So far (not including cost of motorcycle) I have spent just over $23,000.

Don't get me wrong, you can get away with racing for probably half of what I have spent, but in my opinion if your going to do something, do it properly. The previous costings on the other posts are accurate but alot has been missed out. Its not just a case of having a race kitted bike. You need to allocate money towards riding gear, spares, tools, race fees, transport (van, ute, trailer), labour costs and repairs.

I for one hate having to ask to borrow something of someone. I am a firm believer in that if you need to ask to borrow something more than once, you yourself need to purchase the item.

$23,000 and counting includes the following,

Race Licence (MA & MCRC Fees, x2 Pre-Requisite Race Craft Courses)
Race Nomination/Entrance Fees
Race Glass
Painting
Tyres
Lap Timer
Tyre Warmers
WP Steering Damper
WP Rear Shock
WP Front Fork Springs
Harris Rearsets
Harris Clipons
Harris Fairing Stay Bracket
Harris Spares
Gold Valving Front Forks
Akrapovic Full Titanium Race System
Oggy Knobs
Radiator Guard
K&N Airfilter
Power Commander IIIR
520 Conversion Chain & Sprockets
Front and Rear Stands
Racing Numbers
Race Seat Foam
Brake Pads
Goodridge braided lines
Spare Front/Rear Rims
Spare Brake/Clutch Levers
Spare Radiator
Spare Subframe
Spare Forks
Spare Discs
Spare Sprockets
Spare Race Glass
Pit Mat
Extension Cords
Power Boards
Fuel
Alpinestar One Piece Suit x 2
Suomy Helmet x 2
Knee Sliders
Toe Sliders
Back Protector
Snap On Tool Box
Snap On Tools
Compressor
Compressor hose and attachments
Battery Charger
Fully Enclosed Box Top Trailer

and most importantly

One very understanding wife!!!! (Priceless)

The above list is not exhaustive and the costs keep on coming. As I recently experienced at the National Rounds, it doesn't have to be your fault to have a crash. I crashed at around 240km/hr. I had the honour of having the highest speed crash of the weekend but was fortunate enough to walk away without any injuries.

Due to this year being my first in Road Racing, the above list contains alot of 'start up' items that most begineers would also need to purchase. Don't discount the spares because if you don't have them, you may end up being left in the pits 'watching the racing' as many a rider experienced at the recent nationals. If you think you won't crash, don't come racing. Calvin, Leroy and Ben have all crashed twice so far this season. Tex and I have crashed once. It will happen.

My costings for next year don't look anywhere near that amount.

I would be expecting the season to cost no more than $3000 to $5000 including fees, tyres, fuel and minor repairs.

On that note I would like to thank

Causeway Honda & Staff
Bridgestone Tyres
Putoline Oils
EBC Brake Pads
Alpinestars
Suomy Helmets
WP Suspension
Renthal ChainWheels
Regina Chains
Akrapovic Exhausts
K&N Air Filters
Dynotime

for their on going support and sponsorship throughout my first season. Especially the staff at Causeway Honda who work alot of the time on the bike in their own time getting it ready for race day, only to have to rebuild her again for the upcoming Round 3 WA State Round on the 25th of July 2004.

**Tex** · 08-07-2004, 11:17 PM

hey calvin will you have the bike ready for the 25th ??

welcome to the forum RG78, of the guys on the forum i think 4 are racing superbikes, Gohan, Madmax, Zipdrive and Ben, and myself and Calvin are racing supersport
the 400 class isn't even run over here in WA.

**gohan** · 09-07-2004, 12:03 AM

Re: Budget???

Racing Numbers
Race Seat Foam
Pit Mat
Extension Cords
Power Boards
Toe Sliders
Compressor hose and attachments
. Tex and I have crashed once. It will happen.
On that note I would like to thank

Causeway Honda & Staff
Bridgestone Tyres
Putoline Oils
EBC Brake Pads
Alpinestars
Suomy Helmets
WP Suspension
Renthal ChainWheels
Regina Chains
Akrapovic Exhausts
K&N Air Filters
Dynotime

for their on going support and sponsorship throughout my first season. Especially the staff at Causeway Honda who work alot of the time on the bike in their own time getting it ready for race day, only to have to rebuild her again for the upcoming Round 3 WA State Round on the 25th of July 2004.

WHAT THE HELL?????you have finally said it.as i said to you before,its the inevitable.we are all gonna crash.and whats this,race numbers,race seat???if your gonna put those things down then you may as well put the cable ties and lockwire you bring :? and whats this thanking the sponsors??you may as well get on your knees or bend over

only joking buddy,this is a expensive sport thats why i dont and wont even think about adding my expenses up :shock:

**#151** · 09-07-2004, 12:12 AM

Incidentals...

Ahh I forgot about the incidentals...

It all adds up!

The sponsors need thanking otherwise I don't think I would be still racing! I'm not a mechanics arsehole when it comes to working on the bike!

Calculating costs! Don't do it! Ignorance is bliss. What you don't know won't hurt you.

But you won't have to worry about that when you release your pending number one best seller;

'It's all about Leroy'

**gohan** · 09-07-2004, 12:17 AM

Re: Incidentals...

But you won't have to worry about that when you release your pending number one best seller;

'It's all about Leroy'

now i know you are definately a story teller BITCH

i would like to thank me,myself and before i forget myself :roll:

**#151** · 09-07-2004, 12:26 AM

Comments...

Well said.....

What story would you like me to read to you tonight?

**Ace** · 09-07-2004, 01:05 AM

Righteo then, thanks all for your response. I think I will be able to get on the track in 2015. I guess its off to the stock market I go :? Blue chips anyone ?!?

What do you guys think about a second hand race bike like an 02/03, with all the race equipment already with it compared to shelling out and buying all the stuff yourself?

Anybody want to sell a 250 Aprillia :?:

Even better, anybody want to give me a bike to race

:twisted: