Hi Andy,was thinking of :- military- Chitna -Gingin brook-Cowalla-reagens Ford- Mogumber-New Norcia for fuel -Calingiri-Toodyay -Julimar- Brookton, As it's a new route I spotted on the Moora run I haven't tried it yet!just google earthed it. comes in at 380 kms.Would prefer to start at the Caltex on the corner in Ocean Keys/Marmion,as its only 20 ks from me,9.0am,but it's all adjustable! please let me know if you are definitly on,as only 1 turned up on the last one,and decided not to bother. cheers Bill